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y = ln ( x y y ) \large y' = \ln(xy' - y)

Given the differential equation above, y ( 1 ) = 1 y(1) = -1 , y y is twice differentiable, and y ( x ) 0. y''(x) \ne 0.

Evaluate y ( e ) y(e) .


Notation: e 2.7182 e \approx 2.7182 denotes the Euler's number .

0 1 e e π \pi

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2 solutions

Tom Engelsman
Jun 19, 2017

Let's us differentiate both sides of our DE with respect to x x such that:

d d x [ y = l n ( x y y ) ] y = ( y + x y ) y x y y = x y x y y . \frac{d}{dx} [y' = ln(xy' - y)] \Rightarrow y'' = \frac{(y' + xy'') - y'}{xy' - y} = \frac{xy''}{xy' - y}.

This in turn results in x x y y = 1 y 1 x y = 1 \frac{x}{xy' - y} = 1 \Rightarrow y' - \frac{1}{x}y = 1 , which after introducing the integrating factor u ( x ) = 1 x u(x) = \frac{1}{x} now produces:

1 x y 1 x 2 y = 1 x ( y x ) = 1 x y x = l n ( x ) + C \frac{1}{x}y' - \frac{1}{x^{2}}y = \frac{1}{x} \Rightarrow (\frac{y}{x})' = \frac{1}{x} \Rightarrow \frac{y}{x} = ln(x) + C

which after implementing the given boundary condition yields 1 1 = l n ( 1 ) + C C = 1 , \frac{-1}{1} = ln(1) + C \Rightarrow C = -1, or y ( x ) = x l n ( x ) x . y(x) = xln(x) - x.

We wish to compute y ( e ) y(e) , which equals y ( e ) = e [ l n ( e ) 1 ] = e ( 1 1 ) = 0 . y(e) = e[ln(e) - 1] = e(1 - 1) = \boxed{0}.

Note that y ( x ) = 1 y(x) = -1 (the constant function) is also a solution. You "lost" this solution when you divided both sides of the equation by y y'' .

Jon Haussmann - 3 years, 11 months ago

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Thank you, Jon! I've updated the problem statement accordingly.

tom engelsman - 3 years, 11 months ago

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I don't get how the problem was updated: y = 1 y=-1 is still a solution!

Filip Rázek - 3 years, 5 months ago

This equation actually boils down to a Clairaut's Equation . Right?

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 6 months ago

You have assumed that y is twice differentiable and that was not actually given.

Adel Douba - 3 years, 5 months ago
Claudio Brot
Jan 27, 2018

We want to get rid of the ln ( x ) \text{ln}(x) -function first, so we build two equations by applying the exp ( x ) \text{exp}(x) -function and by differentiation:

e y = x y y \boxed{e^{y'}=xy'-y}

y = 1 x y y \boxed{y''=\frac{1}{xy'-y}}

By putting those two equations together we get: y = 1 e y = e y y''=\frac{1}{e^{y'}}=e^{-y'} .

Now substitute y = v y'=v and get: v = e v v'=e^{-v} . This can easily be solved: d v d x = e v e v d v = d x e v = e y = x \frac{\text{d}v}{\text{d}x}=e^{-v} \Leftrightarrow \int e^v \text{d}v=\int \text{d}x \Rightarrow e^v=\boxed{e^{y'}=x}

Substitute this result into our equation above: y = 1 e y = 1 x y''=\frac{1}{e^{y'}}=\frac{1}{x}

Now solve this by integrating twice:

y = 1 x y = ln ( x ) + c 1 y = x ( ln ( x ) 1 ) + c 2 y''=\frac{1}{x} \Rightarrow y'=\text{ln}(x)+c_1 \Rightarrow \boxed{y=x(\text{ln}(x)-1)+c_2}

Now apply the initial condition y ( 1 ) = 1 y(1) = -1 and get: y ( 1 ) = 1 = 1 ( 0 1 ) + c 2 = 1 + c 2 c 2 = 0 y(1)=-1=1(0-1)+c_2=-1+c_2 \Rightarrow \boxed{c_2=0}

At last we can solve the problem: y ( e ) = e ( 1 1 ) = 0 \boxed{y(e)=e(1-1)=0}

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