Determining Irrationality Using Logarithms?

Which of the options is correct about the number log 4 18 \log _{ 4 }{ 18 } ?

Rational Prime Composite Irrational

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Using the properties of logarithms have that

log 4 ( 18 ) = log 4 ( 2 3 2 ) = log 4 ( 2 ) + 2 log 4 ( 3 ) = 1 2 + 2 log 2 ( 3 ) log 2 ( 4 ) = 1 2 + log 2 ( 3 ) \log_{4}(18) = \log_{4}(2*3^{2}) = \log_{4}(2) + 2\log_{4}(3) = \dfrac{1}{2} + 2*\dfrac{\log_{2}(3)}{\log_{2}(4)} = \dfrac{1}{2} + \log_{2}(3) .

Now this expression will be rational if log 2 ( 3 ) > 0 \log_{2}(3) \gt 0 is rational. So by contradiction, assume that log 2 ( 3 ) = m n \log_{2}(3) = \dfrac{m}{n} for some positive integers m , n m,n . This then implies that

2 m n = 3 ( 2 m n ) n = 3 n 2 m = 3 n \large 2^{\frac{m}{n}} = 3 \Longrightarrow (2^{\frac{m}{n}})^{n} = 3^{n} \Longrightarrow 2^{m} = 3^{n} .

But as 2 m 2^{m} is always even and 3 n 3^{n} is always odd, this equality can never hold. This implies that our supposition that log 2 ( 3 ) \log_{2}(3) is rational is in fact false, i.e., log 2 ( 3 ) \log_{2}(3) is irrational. Then since the sum of a rational and an irrational is irrational the correct option is i r r a t i o n a l \boxed{irrational} .

The next question to consider is whether log 2 ( 3 ) \log_{2}(3) , and thus log 4 ( 18 ) \log_{4}(18) , is algebraic or transcendental. By the Gelfond-Schneider Theorem , if the irrational number log 2 ( 3 ) \log_{2}(3) were algebraic then 2 log 2 ( 3 ) = 3 \large 2^{\log_{2}(3)} = 3 would be transcendental, which is clearly not the case. Thus log 2 ( 3 ) \log_{2}(3) must be transcendental.

Kay Xspre
Mar 28, 2016

Provided that 16 < 18 < 64 16 < 18 < 64 , we get that 2 < log 4 18 < 3 2 < \log_4 18 < 3 . This is obvious that it cannot be prime, composite or rational, hence it is irrational

Hmmm, this is incorrect. By your logic, log 4 32 = 2.5 \log_4 32 = 2.5 is irrational as well.

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 2 months ago

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ya you are right, but he is right about it not being composite or prime

Oximas omar - 1 month ago
Bhupendra Jangir
Apr 13, 2016

Let log4(18) = x ==> 4^x = 18 ==> 2^(2x) = 18 ==> x is irrational.

Oximas Omar
May 15, 2021

first of all, here is a little exam trick I learned, we know only one answer is true

if the answer was prime then it's rational making two answers correct therefore it can't be prime , similarly, it can't be composite .

now we need to prove whether it's rational or not, we do a proof by contradiction using a method similar to what other solvers had done, assuming it's rational and coming up with a contradiction proving it's irrational .

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