Logarithm - Basics

Algebra Level 3

log e a b log e b = ? \large \color{#20A900}{\log_eab-\log_e|b|=\ ?}

Choose the right option:

A. log e a \log_e|a|

B. log e a -\log_e|a|

C. log e a \log_ea

D. log e a -\log_ea

E. None of the above.


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5 solutions

log of any number is defined for positive real numbers only,so |b| and b are same. so that answer is lna

if b and |b| are same . then why not answer C ??????

Anisur Anis - 5 years, 11 months ago

log being defined for positive real numbers doesn't implie |b| and b being the same, if a and b are negatives, ab is positive and |b| is positive, but |b| = -b

Claudionor Júnior - 5 years, 11 months ago

Wait, but I thought that the logarithm function could be extended to negative numbers using complex numbers.

Louis Ullman - 3 years, 1 month ago

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If e i π = 1 e^{i\pi} = -1 then ln ( 1 ) = π × i \ln(-1) = \pi \times i

Stephen Mellor - 3 years, 1 month ago

Then based on your explanation, A and C are equal.

Keith Sanchez - 5 years, 11 months ago
Tapas Mazumdar
May 7, 2018

Using properties of logarithms, we have

ln a b ln b = ln a b b \ln ab - \ln |b| = \ln \dfrac{ab}{|b|}

Since for the original expression to be defined over a certain set of real numbers, we need both ln a b \ln ab and ln b \ln |b| to be defined. ln b \ln |b| is always defined for b 0 b \neq 0 while ln a b \ln ab is defined only when a b > 0 ab > 0 , i.e, both positive or both negative.

  • If b > 0 b>0 then ln a b b = ln a \ln \dfrac{ab}{|b|} = \ln a which is defined since a > 0 a>0 if b > 0 b>0 .

  • If b < 0 b<0 then ln a b b = ln ( a ) \ln \dfrac{ab}{|b|} = \ln (-a) which is defined since a < 0 a<0 if b < 0 b<0 .

The function that corresponds to f ( a ) : = { a , a > 0 a , a < 0 f(a) := \begin{cases} a &, a>0 \\ -a &, a<0 \end{cases} \ is the function f ( a ) = a f(a) = |a| . Hence the required answer is ln a \boxed{\ln |a|} .

log (x) with base 'e' is defined only when x is greater than zero. now consider the case when b>0, then 'a' must also be greater than zero ,since log (a b) is defined only for a b>0. so given expression becomes log(a*b/b)= log (a). if 'b' <0, then 'a' must also be negative. hence ans should be log (mod a).

Maya Tohmaz
Jul 2, 2015

log e (a)= ln (a),, ln(ab) can be either ln(a)+ln(b) or ln(-a)+ln(-b), to satisfy both cases we have to choose loge|a|

Aviral Jain
Jul 2, 2015

ln ab= ln a + ln b ln a/b = ln a - ln b

' ln '(log with base e) is only defined for natural numbers (positive numbers) and here we have ln |b| so it means b can take a negative value hence we got a modulus with it, but when its multiplied with a then it we don't have the modulus which infers that a and b have the same sign. therefore when we subtract ln |b| from ln ab then we are left with ln a but since it can also be negative if b is negative which will render our answer undefined so we put a modulus with it

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