Reverse Logarithmic Inequality

Algebra Level 3

1 log 4 ( x + 1 x + 2 ) < 1 log 4 ( x + 3 ) \dfrac{1}{\log_{4}\left(\dfrac{x+1}{x+2}\right)}<\dfrac{1}{\log_{4}(x+3)}

If the range of x x that satisfy the equality above is ( a , ) (a,\infty) , find the value of a a .


The answer is -1.

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Relevant wiki: Logarithmic Inequalities - Problem Solving

In L.H.S the domain is ( , 2 ) ( 1 , ) (-\infty,-2) \cup (-1,\infty) . In R.H.S the domain is ( 3 , 2 ) ( 2 , ) (-3,-2) \cup (-2,\infty) . So domain of x x is ( 3 , 2 ) ( 1 , ) (-3,-2) \cup (-1,\infty) .

!!We have log 4 ( x + 1 x + 2 ) > log 4 ( x + 3 ) \log_{4}\left(\dfrac{x+1}{x+2}\right)>\log_{4}(x+3) or ( x + 1 x + 2 ) ( x + 3 ) > 0 \left(\dfrac{x+1}{x+2}\right)-(x+3)>0 or ( x 2 + 4 x + 5 ) x + 2 > 0 \dfrac{-(x^2+4x+5)}{x+2}>0 .

x 2 + 4 x + 5 > 0 x^2+4x+5>0 for all real x x as its discriminant is less than 0 0 . So we need x + 2 < 0 x+2<0 or x < 2 x<-2 .!!

But the domain of x x is ( 3 , 2 ) ( 1 , ) (-3,-2) \cup (-1,\infty) !!so the domain of x x satisfying the inequality is also ( 1 , ) (-1,\infty) . !!

Note that the first statement is not true. What is the true domain of the LHS? Hint: Solve x + 1 x + 2 > 0 \frac{x+1}{x+2} > 0 .

Another mistake that you made, is multiplying your inequalities by a value without confirming that it is indeed positive. For example, if we wanted to solve 1 x < 1 \frac{1}{x} < 1 , is the solution set simply multiplying throughout by x x to claim that 1 < x 1 < x ?

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years ago

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Thanks sir. I have to edit the second part(the part in the double exclamation marks). Are my domains correct?

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The domain of the RHS doesn't seem correct.

If we need x + 2 < 0 x+2< 0 , why is the domain ( 1 , ) (-1, \infty ) ?

Be careful with solving inequalities with variables.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years ago
Sarthak Pal
May 22, 2016

Relevant wiki: Logarithmic Inequalities - Problem Solving

First we need to convert this question using a simple log formula :- log b a = 1 log a b \log _{b}{a}=\frac{1}{\log _{a}{b}} Therefore, the above inequality becomes :

log x + 1 x + 2 4 < log x + 3 4 \log _{ \frac { x+1 }{ x+2 } }{ 4 } < \log _{x+3}{4}

Now, to find the domain of the LHS

x + 1 x + 2 > 0 \frac { x+1 }{ x+2 } > 0 on solving we get: x ( , 2 ) ( 1 , ) x\in \left( -\infty ,-2 \right) \cup\left( -1,\infty \right)

Similiarly on solving for the domain of the RHS we get: x ( 3 , ) x \in (-3, \infty )

Therefore the domain of x will be the intersection of both the sets i.e : x ( 3 , 2 ) ( 1 , ) x \in (-3,-2) \cup(-1,\infty )

However we need to find only those values of x for which this inequality is satisfied. We know that, log y 4 \log _{ y }{ 4 } is a monotonically decreasing function for y>1. For us to be able to use this monotonicity both x + 1 x + 2 \frac { x+1 }{ x+2 } and x + 3 x+3 must be greater than 1, which will not happen in the domain of x x .

Therefore , the only case is that x + 1 x + 2 < 1 \frac {x+1}{x+2}< 1 & x + 3 > 1 x+3 > 1 . The only common solution satisfying both the conditions is x > 2 x > -2 .The solution to this inequality will be the intersection of ( 2 , ) \left(-2,\infty \right) and the domain of x x and hence the answer is ( 1 , ) \boxed{(-1, \infty)}

Sorry, if monotonicity was a bit confusing, I thought to use that concept to make this inequality a bit easier. Anyways do feel free to check out the graph of log x 4 \log_x 4 at this link and figure this question out yourself!

[ For us to be able to use this monotonicity both and must be greater than 1, which will not happen in the domain of x ] what is meant by this??

Harry Hart - 2 years, 11 months ago

Take both the cases of monotonically increasing and decreasing and then reject the false one afterwards.

布拉 辛格 - 1 year ago
Mohammad Saqib
Apr 24, 2020

LHS defined for x ( , 2 ) ( 1 , ) x \in (-\infty, -2) \cup (-1, \infty) and RHS defined for ( 3 , 2 ) ( 2 , ) (-3, -2) \cup (-2, \infty) . Hence the domain of x x is ( 3 , 2 ) ( 1 , ) (-3, -2) \cup (-1, \infty) .

To use the reciprocal law, both sides must be positive or negative. LHS is positive for ( 3 , 2 ) (-3, -2) while RHS is negative. For ( 1 , ) (-1, \infty) , LHS is negative while RHS is positive. Hence, that's the solution.

note that log 4 (x + 3) < log 4(x+1/x+2) . then we can reaarange to get quadratic inequality (x+3)(x+2)/(x+1) <=0 and thus (-1,infinity )

Advaith Kumar - 1 year ago

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