Logarithms

Algebra Level 4

A cool number is defined as a number N N that satisfies both of the following equations simultaneously. log 3 N = 4 + β 1 log 5 N = 2 + β 2 \log_3 N = 4 + \beta_1 \\ \log_5 N = 2 + \beta_2 β 1 \beta_1 and β 2 \beta_2 are fractional parts of the number. How many integral cool numbers are there?

Note: A fractional part lies in the interval [ 0 , 1 ) [0,1) .


The answer is 44.

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6 solutions

Michael Tang
Dec 14, 2013

Since 0 β 1 , β 2 < 1 , 0 \le \beta_1, \beta_2 < 1, we can rewrite the given system of equations as 4 log 3 N < 5 2 log 5 N < 3. \begin{aligned} 4 &\le \log_3 N < 5 \\ 2 &\le \log_5 N < 3. \end{aligned} Taking note that logarithm functions are increasing, we can convert these as follows: 3 4 N < 3 5 5 2 N < 5 3 , \begin{aligned} 3^4 &\le N < 3^5 \\ 5^2 &\le N < 5^3, \end{aligned} or 81 N < 243 25 N < 125. \begin{aligned} 81 &\le N < 243 \\ 25 &\le N < 125.\end{aligned} N N must satisfy both of these inequality chains, so we get 81 N < 125 , 81 \le N < 125, or 81 N 124. 81 \le N \le 124. Thus, the possible values of N N are just the integers between 81 81 and 124 124 inclusive, of which there are 124 81 + 1 = 44 . 124-81+1 = \boxed{44}.

Rindell Mabunga
Dec 14, 2013

By law of logarithms and exponents:

the first equation is equivalent to

3 4 + β 1 = N \large 3^{4 + \beta_1} = N

at the same time, the second equation is also equivalent to

5 2 + β 2 = N \large 5^{2 + \beta_2} = N

Since,

  • β 1 \beta_1 and β 2 \beta_2 are fractional parts of a number and they are between 0 and 1

  • 3 4 = 81 3^4 = 81 and 3 5 = 243 3^5 = 243

  • 5 2 = 25 5^2 = 25 and 5 3 = 125 5^3 = 125

the number of "cool numbers" is the intersection of the numbers in my last two conditions. The intersection will be the numbers between 81 and 125. Therefore, the number of "cool numbers" is 125 81 125 - 81 or 44

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عمرو إبراهيم - 7 years, 6 months ago

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I too used same process

Mehul Chaturvedi - 6 years, 5 months ago
Uday Krishna
Feb 7, 2014

converting log into exponential form N=3^{4+B1}=>is in between [81,243) N=5^{2+B2}=>is in b/n [25,125) taking intersection answer is \boxed{44}

Sajan Kapil
Jan 17, 2014

\­[ N=3^{4} 3^{\beta {1}}\­] and [N=5^{2} 5^{\beta {2}} The range of N are N=[81 243) and N=[25 125) form both the equation hence the commen area is [81 124] hence 44 integer

Daniel Chiu
Dec 14, 2013

From the equations, we know log 3 N = 4 \lfloor\log_3 N\rfloor=4 and log 5 N = 2 \lfloor\log_5 N\rfloor=2 From the first equation, N 3 4 = 81 N\ge 3^4=81 and N < 3 5 = 243 N<3^5=243 . From the second, N 5 2 = 25 N\ge 5^2=25 and N < 5 3 = 125 N<5^3=125 . Therefore, the answer is the number of integers from 81 to 124, inclusive, which is 124 80 = 44 124-80=\boxed{44} .

Parth Kohli
Dec 14, 2013

log 3 N = 4 + β 1 \log_3 N = 4 + \beta_1 is another way to say that log 3 N \log_3 N lies in the interval [ 4 , 5 ) [4,5) meaning that N [ 81 , 243 ) N \in [81,243) . Also log 5 N = 2 + β 2 \log_5 N = 2 + \beta_2 means that log 5 N [ 2 , 3 ) \log_5 N \in [2,3) and so N [ 25 , 125 ) N \in [25,125) .

We are left with N [ 81 , 125 ) N \in [81,125) . This interval has 44 44 integers.

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