Logarithms and More Logarithms!

Algebra Level 2

If log a x = 3 \log_a x = 3 and log b x = 4 \log_b x = 4 , then log a b x = ? \log_{ab} x = ? Express your answer as a decimal rounded to three decimal places.


The answer is 1.714.

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Chew-Seong Cheong
Jan 20, 2018

From log b x = 4 \log_b x = 4 , log a x log a b = 3 log a b = 4 \implies \dfrac {\log_a x}{\log_a b} = \dfrac 3{\log_a b} = 4 , log a b = 3 4 \implies \color{#3D99F6} \log_a b = \dfrac 34 . Then we have log a b x = log a x log a ( a b ) = 3 log a a + log a b = 3 1 + 3 4 = 12 7 1.714 \log_{ab} x = \dfrac {\log_a x}{\log_a (ab)} = \dfrac 3{\log_a a + \color{#3D99F6}\log_a b} = \dfrac 3{1+\color{#3D99F6} \frac 34} = \dfrac {12}7 \approx \boxed{1.714}

I'm well satisfied with such an explanation

Sonali Santra - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Glad that you like it.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 4 months ago
Vishruth Bharath
Jan 20, 2018

We are given that log a x = 3 \log_a x = 3 and that log b x = 4 \log_b x = 4 . Our objective is to find what log a b \log_{ab} equals to. Well, to do this, we must first rewrite the given logarithms using a different form. This gives us that log a x = 3 log ( x ) log ( a ) = 3 \log_a x = 3 \implies \frac{\log(x)}{\log(a)}=3 and that log b x = 4 log ( x ) log ( b ) = 4 \log_b x = 4 \implies \frac{\log(x)}{\log(b)}=4 . We can see that both logarithmic function have log ( x ) \log(x) as their numerators, which will be used later. Now, we can move on to finding what log a b x \log_{ab} \ x is. Since log a b \log_{ab} is the same thing as log a + l o g b \log_a + log_b , we can create the following expression: log ( x ) log a b log ( x ) log a + log b \frac{\log(x)}{\log_{ab}} \Rightarrow \frac{\log(x)}{\log_a + \log_b} . Now is the part where it gets somewhat tricky. We can use another rule for logarithms to get the following derived expressions for log a x = 3 \log_a x=3 and log b x = 4 \log_b x=4 - log ( x ) log ( x ) 3 + log ( x ) 4 1 1 3 + 1 4 1 7 12 12 7 1.714 \frac{\log(x)}{\frac{\log(x)}{3}+\frac{\log(x)}{4}} \implies \frac{1}{\frac{1}{3}+\frac{1}{4}} \Rightarrow \frac{1}{\frac{7}{12}} \Rightarrow \frac{12}{7} \approx \boxed{1.714}

@Vishruth Bharath , just like \frac 12 1 2 \frac 12 , \sin \theta sin θ \sin \theta , \tan tan \tan and \ln ln \ln , you need to put a backslash before log. See the different log x l o g x log x and \log x log x \log x . Note that the function simbol log is not in italic which is for variable and constant. Note that x is in italic. Also note that a space is provided between log and x for the one with backslash while the one without has no space.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks!

Joshua Karamchand - 3 years, 4 months ago

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You are welcome

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 4 months ago

Thanks so much for the advice!

Vishruth Bharath - 3 years, 4 months ago

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You are welcome

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 4 months ago
Steven Yuan
Jan 20, 2018

By the properties of logarithms, log x a = 1 3 \log_x a = \dfrac{1}{3} and log x b = 1 4 . \log_x b = \dfrac{1}{4}. Thus,

log a b x = 1 log x a b = 1 log x a + log x b = 1 1 3 + 1 4 = 12 7 1.714 . \begin{aligned} \log_{ab} x &= \dfrac{1}{\log_x ab} \\ &= \dfrac{1}{\log_x a + \log_x b} \\ &= \dfrac{1}{\frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{4}} \\ &= \dfrac{12}{7} \\ &\approx \boxed{1.714}. \end{aligned}

David Vreken
Jan 20, 2018

log a x = 3 a 3 = x \log_a{x} = 3 \implies a^3 = x , log b x = 3 b 3 = x \log_b{x} = 3 \implies b^3 = x , and log a b x = y ( a b ) y = x \log_{ab}{x} = y \implies (ab)^y = x .

If x = a 3 = b 4 x = a^3 = b^4 , then a = b 4 3 a = b^\frac{4}{3} .

If a = b 4 3 a = b^\frac{4}{3} and x = b 4 x = b^4 , then ( a b ) y = x ( b 4 3 b ) y = b 4 b 7 y 3 = b 4 7 y 3 = 4 y = 12 7 1.714 (ab)^y = x \implies (b^\frac{4}{3}b)^y = b^4 \implies b^\frac{7y}{3} = b^4 \implies \frac{7y}{3} = 4 \implies y = \frac{12}{7} \approx \boxed{1.714} .

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