If it takes 4 minutes to cut a log into 4 pieces, how many minutes will it take to cut a log into 3 pieces?
Assume all cuts are parallel, and cuts are done sequentially (not simultaneously).
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4 piece = 3 cuts= 4 min => 1 cut = 4/3 min, & 3 piece = 2 cuts => 4/3*2 min = 8/3 min......
Lol!! Log(3).... gd joke
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Of course, it's really a "natural log", but "ln(3)" hides the joke too far.
good fooling question
haha yeah XD
Solution: => To cut the log into 4 pieces, u need 3 cuts. => It takes 4 mins for 3 cuts. i.e. 240 secs for 3 cuts. => So 80 secs for 1 cut. => To cut the log into 3 pieces u need 2 cuts. i.e. 160 secs. => And 160 secs = 8/3 mins.
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Very helpful..
Best method ; for me! makes the most sense - to me!
Thanks. Made sense and I understood. 👌👍
But logically, this question doesn't give enough information. It makes the assumption that you know the first log didn't take any time to get. What if the first log had to be cut from a bigger log? then it would take 3 minutes.
So we get the proportion 3 4 ═ 2 x , that is equivalent to 3 x ═ 4 × 2 ═ 8 , whose only solution is x ═ 3 8 .
I kinda kinda wish there was a picture explaining it..
But you can cut a log into 4 pieces using 2 cuts if you cut down the length of the log starting with the circle on the end of the log in an x or t pattern. Sorry if I am unclear, I find solving problems much easier than explaining them.
Duh. I Wasn't awake obviously!
Doesn't that depend on which direction your cuts are? Cut a log with 2 cuts in the shape on an X on the flat end and you get 4 pieces.
But it is provided that all cuts are parallel. So all cuts (either 3 or 4 or 5 etc) will take equal time in total.
thank youi
Thanks! Good logic :D
Nice answer
Aaahhh. Fooled me! Good question!
Thanks for explanation
Because i do not understand perfectly English, I thought a log was like a circle ... So in my head to cut a log into 4 pieces is possible in 2 cuts ! And a log into 3 pieces needs 3 cuts ! Haha my mistake
If you cut the log in half, and then cut the 2 halves simultaneously you only have 2 cuts therefore the answer could be 4 mins as you only need 2 cuts to make 3 logs
i just make a picture of log and soon after making i realize that to cut a log in 4 pieces you need 3 cuts
For cutting the log in 4 pieces I need 2 cuts. I cut first time in 2 halves and second, after alignment, I cut both in halves again! Assume the time for alignment is the same as the time for the movement when we cut in 3 pieces!
yes this is very tricky
To cut a log into 4 pieces in parallel you use 3 parallel cuts. Duration of each is 4 minutes. To cut a log into 3 pieces you use 2 cuts in parallel. Duration of each is 4 minutes. The answer - 4 minutes, i.e. duration of one cut.
i thought it was 3
it was written all cuts are parallel. that means 1 cut takes 4 minutes.
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All cuts are parallel in the sense every cut only gives you one more piece. They are not simultaneous, which is what would be written if each cut takes 4 minutes.
This question is really tricky. 4 pieces doesn't mean anything here. What is important is the cut. It takes 4 minute to do 3 cuts so that the log will be separated into 4 pieces. So 1 cut takes 4 ÷ 3 = 3 4 minutes. To cut the log into 3 pieces, then you have to do 2 cuts, which means 3 4 × 2 = 3 8 minutes.
Here important is that how many cut which are 3 so it take 4 minutes so time for two cut 4÷3×2=8/3
2*4/3=8/3 mints
Think you will find then that the 4 pieces is very important as this is how you identified you had 3 cuts as it doesn't state the number of cuts!
I get that 8/3 was the only correct option, but given that the question asks "how long" it will take to cut 3 pieces, and we know 4 pieces takes 4 minutes, the real answer here should be 2 minutes and 40 seconds.
This question is really tricky. 4 pieces doesn't mean anything here. What is important is the cut. It takes 4 minute to do 3 cuts so that the log will be separated into 4 pieces. So 1 cut takes minutes. To cut the log into 3 pieces, then you have to do 2 cuts, which means minutes.
it based on how you cut the log if i consider the cut in vertically then it will take 4 min
4 pieces means 3 cuts. 3 pieces means 2 cuts Thus the answer is 4/3x2. = 8 / 3
To obtain 4 pieces you have preform 3 cuts
Thus;
t c = n c t T
where:
t c :is the time of each cut
t T : the total time of the process
n c : number of cuts
t c = 3 4
in case of 3 pieces
t T = n c × t c = 2 ∗ 3 4 = 3 8
I like : OK 5 / 9
when we divide into 4 part we need 3 cut time for 1 cut =4/3 and for 3 part we need 2 cut time = 4*2/3=8/3
we want to cut 3 times to make 4 pieces,
time taken =4 min (to make 4 pieces)
therefore time taken for single cut = 4/3 min
for two cuts(that is to make 3 pieces) =4/3 x 2 = 8/3 min
With each cut 1.33 mins went by so with 2 cut i.e. three pieces we have 2.66 or 8/3
Regla de tres. 3 cortes 4 mins, 2 cortes X mins. (2x4/3)
I'm missing something here - I might be missing something really simple, but can't understand. Isn't 8/3 bigger than 4/3? Or, in other words 8/3 min > 4/3 min. How can fewer cuts take more time?
For 4 pieces 3 cuts are made and it takes 4 mins, so time to make 1 cut=4/3 min ATQ, WE NEED TO MAKE 2 CUTS to produce 3 pieces. Hence time required= (4/3)*2 = 8/3.
Each one cut =4/3 of min & 2 cuts need 2*4/3 min to make 3 pieces =>8/3
3 cuts needed for making 4 pieces so each cut takes 1.33 mins. For 3 pcs, 2 cuts needed which takes 2.66 mins
It takes 4 minutes to cut 4 pieces means 3 cuts. To have 3 pieces it is required to cut 2 times. So the time takes for making 3 pieces is (4/3)*2 = (8/3)
4 mins for 3 cuts , 1 cut requires 4/3 mins and 2 cut needs 8/3 mins
Nice trick question for those sleepy heads ....
for those trying to find a way to get round it and prove your wrong answer right, give up, the parallel and sequential stuff that idea right up (you could argue wear and tear and state the first cut of a new saw cuts the first piece in 1m 40 and the last in 1m 20 and therefore 3 pieces would be done in 3m) but your pushing your luck LOL
In this problem,I have used unitary method of problem solving. To cut a log into 4 pieces we need 3 cuts and to perform 3 cuts we 4 minutes. Therefore: 3 cuts can be performed in 4 minutes. 1 cut can be performed in 4/3 minutes. so, 2 cuts can be performed in 4/3*2=8/3 minutes
I feel I'm the only one who thought (perhaps from the picture) that the first cut was used to chop the tree down...
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um the word log gets you there, otherwise it would have said tree, a log is by definition a tree not in the ground i.e. a length of tree (1 piece)
I used a proportion to solve
4 pieces=3 cuts
3 pieces=2 cuts
3 ( c u t s ) 4 ( m i n u t e s ) × 2 ( c u t s ) x ( m i n u t e s )
Cross multiply to get
8 × 3x
Solve for x and you're done :)
okk! But u should full response..
To cut a log into 4 pieces it will require making 3 cuts.
3 cuts ~~ 4 minutes.
=> 1 cut ~~ 4/3 minutes.
For making 3 pieces it will require making 2 cuts....
2 cuts ~~ 2 * 4/3 = 8/3.
Can we not cut a log into 4 pieces using 2 cuts? The question does not specify if the cuts are horizontal or vertical...
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They specified that the cuts are parallel, and to cut it in 4 pieces in 2 cuts would mean to intersect the cuts in a plus-shape.
you could do it in 2 cuts with parallel cuts (half and then half the half's, but 1 cut would separate two pieces at the same time and therefore technically be two cuts), and the sequential part of the problem removes that possibility
I was thinking 2 cuts for 4 pieces. You do it the log in half and position the two sections next to each other and make one cut through both sections. That how I cut lumber at the big box store. So it takes the same number of cuts for 4 and 3 sections..2 cuts. The question is ambiguous enough for that scenario to work. Thinking outside the box.
I just need 2 cuts to cut a log in to 4 pieces. (two cuts perpendicular to each other), so it takes exactly the same time (4 minutes).
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To cut a log into 4 pieces, you use 3 cuts. To cut a log into 3 pieces, you use 2 cuts. So it will take two-thirds the time so, 3 2 × 4 = 3 8