A point P in R 3 has distances of 3 , 7 , 8 , 9 and 1 1 from five of the vertices of a regular octahedron. If the distance from the sixth vertex of the octahedron to P is a , where a is a positive, square-free integer, then find a .
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Sir, I find in a regular octahedron if A P = 3 , C P = 1 1 , B P = 7 and D P = 9 then E P ≥ 6 5 − 8 3 3 = 6 . 0 1 1 5 1 0 6 7 7
By R^3 , do you mean 3-D space , bro ?
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Yes, that's correct. I just edited it to show R 3 , which is the standard representation.
Could you please provide edge length of this octahedron?
Let's place origin of Cartesian coordinate system in the middle of the octahedron a the axes will go through three vertices. Cartesian coordinates of vertices will be [ ± d , 0 , 0 ] ; [ 0 , ± d , 0 ] and [ 0 , 0 , ± d ] , where d is some positive real number. Let the position of the point P be [ x , y , z ] . Then the square of distances from all six vertices will be
r 1 2 = ( x + d ) 2 + y 2 + z 2 = x 2 + 2 x d + d 2 + y 2 + z 2 ,
r 2 2 = ( x − d ) 2 + y 2 + z 2 = x 2 − 2 x d + d 2 + y 2 + z 2 ,
r 3 2 = x 2 + ( y + d ) 2 + z 2 = x 2 + y 2 + 2 y d + d 2 + z 2 ,
r 4 2 = x 2 + ( y − d ) 2 + z 2 = x 2 + y 2 − 2 y d + d 2 + z 2 ,
r 5 2 = x 2 + y 2 + ( z + d ) 2 = x 2 + y 2 + z 2 + 2 z d + d 2 ,
r 6 2 = x 2 + y 2 + ( z − d ) 2 = x 2 + y 2 + z 2 − 2 z d + d 2 .
When we add squares of distances from opposite vertices, we obtain same number
r 1 2 + r 2 2 = 2 x 2 + 2 y 2 + 2 z 2 + 2 d 2 ,
r 3 2 + r 4 2 = 2 x 2 + 2 y 2 + 2 z 2 + 2 d 2 ,
r 5 2 + r 6 2 = 2 x 2 + 2 y 2 + 2 z 2 + 2 d 2 .
Now we only need to find out, which distances are paired. Using simple table
3 2 | 6 2 | 7 2 | 9 2 | 1 1 2 | |
3 2 | - | 45 | 58 | 90 | 130 |
6 2 | - | - | 85 | 117 | 157 |
7 2 | - | - | - | 130 | 170 |
9 2 | - | - | - | - | 202 |
1 1 2 | - | - | - | - | - |
we obtain
3 2 + 1 1 2 = 7 2 + 9 2 = 6 2 + a = 1 3 0 ,
from where we finally have answer
a = 1 3 0 − 6 2 = 9 4 .
Nice solution, Jakub; thanks for posting it. I think this more or less qualifies as a proof of the 3-D version of the British Flag Theorem. :)
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Thank you. I have never heard of that theorem before revealing solutions. So I'm glad I have learned that thanks to your solution. :-) I always like to see different solutions under problems even though they are basically same process but with different argumentation. This is one of the main reasons I like this portal. :-)
hmmm..wondering if a solution circumscribing a circle around the octahedron by projecting it into R^2 to look like a square and using the secant side length theorems and other secant/circle theorems to solve the problem...
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* Note: This problem and solution have been edited due to concerns raised by Maria Kozlowska. Thanks go to her for catching my error and proposing a suitable remedy to save the question from getting truly "Lost in Space" Also, apologies to Bant Paswan for not following up on similar concerns he raised so long ago. *
We know from the 3-D version of the British Flag Theorem that if A B C D is a square in space and P is any point then ( A P ) 2 + ( C P ) 2 = ( B P ) 2 + ( D P ) 2 .
Now of any five vertices of an octahedron, four must form a square, so we just need to go through the given distances to find two distinct pairs of distances whose squares sum to the same value. We find that 3 2 + 1 1 2 = 7 2 + 9 2 = 1 3 0 is the only possibility.
So suppose, without loss of generality, that A P = 3 , C P = 1 1 , B P = 7 and D P = 9 . Then with the other two vertices of the octahedron being E and F we must also have A E C F be a square. So assigning E P = 8 , (the last of the given distances), by the BFT we have that
( A P ) 2 + ( C P ) 2 = ( E P ) 2 + ( F P ) 2 ⟹ 3 2 + 1 1 2 = 8 2 + ( F P ) 2 ⟹ ( F P ) 2 = 6 6 .