Make It An Ideal Expression

Find the smallest positive integer x x such that

2 x 2 + 5 x + 3 3 \large \frac{2x^2+5x+3}{3}

is a perfect square .


The answer is 11.

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1 solution

Manuel Kahayon
Jul 12, 2016

We have the equation 2 x 2 + 5 x + 3 3 = k 2 \large \frac{2x^2+5x+3}{3} = k^2 for some integer k k . This gives us

2 x 2 + 5 x + 3 = 3 k 2 2 x 2 + 5 x + 3 3 k 2 = 0 2x^2 + 5x + 3 = 3k^2 \implies 2x^2+5x+3-3k^2 = 0 .

Now, we solve for x x using the quadratic formula in terms of k k , this gives us

x = 5 + 1 + 24 k 2 4 \large x = \frac{-5 + \sqrt{1+24k^2}}{4}

Where the ± \pm part of the equation was changed into + + , since the restriction that x x is natural forces us to search for positive values of x x .

Now, we need the discriminant to be a perfect square in order for x x to be rational, i.e.

1 + 24 k 2 = j 2 j 2 24 k 2 = 1 1+24k^2 = j^2 \implies j^2 - 24k^2 = 1

for some integer j j .

It is easy to see that ( j , k ) ( 5 , 1 ) (j,k) \in (5,1) satisfies, but unfortunately this yields x = 0 x = 0 , but 0 0 is not a natural number, so we are forced to look for more solutions.

Luckily, the Fibonacci-Brahmagupta identity comes to the rescue,

( a 2 n b 2 ) ( c 2 n d 2 ) = ( a c + n b d ) 2 n ( a d + b c ) 2 (a^2-nb^2)(c^2 - nd^2) = (ac+nbd)^2 - n(ad+bc)^2

We substitute a = c = 5 a = c = 5 , b = d = 1 b = d = 1 and n = 24 n = 24 to get

( 5 2 ( 24 ) ( 1 2 ) ) ( 5 2 ( 24 ) ( 1 2 ) ) = ( ( 5 ) ( 5 ) + ( 24 ) ( 1 ) ( 1 ) ) 2 ( 24 ) ( ( 5 ) ( 1 ) + ( 5 ) ( 1 ) ) 2 (5^2-(24)(1^2))(5^2-(24)(1^2)) = ((5)(5) + (24)(1)(1))^2 - (24)((5)(1) + (5)(1))^2

Giving us 4 9 2 24 ( 10 ) 2 = 1 49^2 - 24(10)^2 = 1 .

So, ( j , k ) ( 49 , 10 ) (j,k) \in (49,10) also satisfies. This gives us a solution for x x :

x = 5 + 1 + 24 k 2 4 = 5 + j 2 4 = j 5 4 \large x = \frac{-5 + \sqrt{1+24k^2}}{4} = \frac{-5 + \sqrt{j^2}}{4} = \frac{j-5}{4}

Since 1 + 24 k 2 = j 2 1+24k^2 = j^2 .

Substituting j = 49 j = 49 gives us

x = j 5 4 = 49 5 4 = 44 4 = 11 x = \frac{j-5}{4} = \frac{49-5}{4} = \frac{44}{4} = 11

So our final answer is 11 \boxed{11} .

LOL. \quad

Rishabh Jain - 4 years, 11 months ago

I had already done a (+1).... But now I saw a hidden message so I bothered to comment here.. XD

Rishabh Jain - 4 years, 11 months ago

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Ohh, congratulations! You have earned a congratulations for finding the hidden message! XD

Manuel Kahayon - 4 years, 11 months ago

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Lol.............. :-p

Rishabh Jain - 4 years, 11 months ago

And which has been removed now..

Rishabh Jain - 4 years, 10 months ago

Did the same

SHASHANK GOEL - 4 years, 11 months ago

Fibonacci-Brahmagupta was genial. I used the go-horse method to find j=49 =)

Dieuler Oliveira - 4 years, 10 months ago

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