Major Probability Question

We roll a regular die n n times such that 5 n 5 | n . You need to find the probability such that the sum of the numbers shown is a multiple of 5 5 .

The probability can be expressed as a n + b c d n . \frac{a^n + b}{c \cdot d^n}. Find a + b + c + d a+b+c+d .


The answer is 21.

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4 solutions

Daniel Remo
Oct 29, 2015

I'll write a sketch as I don't have time to do a complete solution. the generating function for the score on one die is for t 1 t\neq1 g ( t ) = t 7 t 6 ( t 1 ) g(t)=\frac{t^{7}-t}{6(t-1)} So by the convolution theorem our generating function for the sum of the scores is for (t\neq1) G ( t ) = ( t 7 t 6 ( t 1 ) ) n G(t)=(\frac{t^{7}-t}{6(t-1)})^{n} Now to get the probability our score is divisible by 5 we need the coefficient on all powers of 5 in the expansion. Note that if we compute G ( 1 ) + G ( w ) + . . . + G ( w 4 ) G(1)+G(w)+...+G(w^{4}) ,where w w is the first complex fifth root of unity, then the coefficient of every t t who's power isn't divisible by 5 goes to zero as 1 + w + . . . + w 4 = 0 1+w+...+w^{4}=0 and we are left with 5x the sum of the coefficients of those t t who's power is a multiple of 5 (as w 5 k = 1 w^{5k}=1 for integer k k ). Hence our probability is (noting G ( 1 ) = 1 G(1)=1 as it's the sum of all the probabilities, and that w i n = 1 w_{i}^{n}=1 )

1 5 ( 1 + i = 1 4 ( w i 6 1 6 ( w i 1 ) ) n ) \frac{1}{5} (1+ \sum_{i=1}^4 (\frac{w_{i}^{6}-1}{6(w_{i}-1)})^{n})

Noting that w i 6 = w i w_{i}^{6}=w_{i} and that this becomes

1 5 ( 1 + 4 6 n ) = 6 n + 4 5 × 6 n \frac{1}{5} (1+\frac{4}{6^{n}})=\frac{6^{n}+4}{5 \times 6^{n}}

Hence our answer is 21 \boxed{21}

Alan Yan
Oct 7, 2015

Lemma: \textbf{Lemma:} If p p is a prime number and a 0 , a 1 , . . . , a p 1 a_0, a_1, ... , a_{p-1} are rational numbers satisfying a 0 + a 1 ϵ + . . . + a p 1 ϵ p 1 = 0 , a_0 + a_1\epsilon + ... + a_{p-1}\epsilon^{p-1} = 0, where ϵ = e 2 π p i , \epsilon = e^{\frac{2\pi}{p}i} , then a 0 = a 1 = . . . = a p 1 a_0 = a_1 = ... = a_{p-1} .


Proof: \textbf{Proof:} Observe that the polynomials f ( x ) = a 0 + a 1 x + a 2 x 2 + . . . + a p 1 x p 1 f(x) = a_0 + a_1x + a_2x^2 + ... + a_{p-1}x^{p-1} and g ( x ) = 1 + x + x 2 + . . . + x n g(x) = 1 + x + x^2 + ... + x^n are not relatively prime because they share a common root. Since g ( x ) g(x) is irreducible over Q \mathbb{Q} , g g must divide f f , which can only happen when a 0 = a 1 = . . . = a p 1 a_0 = a_1 = ... = a_{p-1} .


Let a n ( k ) a_n^{(k)} be the number of die rollings such that the sum of the numbers is k k modulo 5 5 .

Let ϵ = e 2 π 5 i \epsilon = e^{\frac{2\pi}{5}i} It is clear that k = 0 4 a n ( k ) ϵ k = ( ϵ + ϵ 2 + ϵ 3 + ϵ 4 + ϵ 5 + ϵ 6 ) n = ϵ n = 1 \sum_{k=0}^{4}{a_n^{(k)}\epsilon^k} = (\epsilon + \epsilon^2 + \epsilon^3 + \epsilon^4 + \epsilon^5 + \epsilon^6)^n = \epsilon^n = 1

Due to the lemma, we have a n 0 1 = a n 1 = a n 2 = a n 3 = a n 4 = q a_n^{0} - 1 = a_n^{1} = a_n^{2} = a_n^{3} = a_n^{4} = q

Then 5 q = k = 0 4 a n k 1 = 6 n 1 q = 6 n 1 5 a n 0 = 6 n + 4 5 5q = \sum_{k = 0}^{4}{a_n^{k}} - 1 = 6^n - 1 \implies q = \frac{6^n - 1}{5} \implies a_n^{0} = \frac{6^n + 4}{5}

Thus the probability is 6 n + 4 5 6 n = 6 n + 4 5 6 n a + b + c + d = 21 \frac{\frac{6^n + 4}{5}}{6^n} = \frac{6^n + 4}{5 \cdot 6^n} \implies a+b+c+d = \boxed{21}

Gargi Gupta
Jun 4, 2016

Prob that 1-5 nos are on top= 5^n÷6^n And prob that sum of no on top =1/5 Now prob that all are six =1/6^n Now also in remaining cases prob=1/5 So required prob = (5/6)^n+1/6^n + 6^n-5^n-1/5*6^n

Arjen Vreugdenhil
Oct 13, 2015

Let a n , k a_{n,k} be the number of ordered n n -tuples out of { 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 } n \{ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6\}^n for which the sum is equal to k k (modulo 5).

We will prove by induction that a n , k = 6 n 1 5 + δ n k , a_{n,k} = \frac{6^n-1}5 + \delta_{nk}, where δ n k = 1 \delta_{nk} = 1 if n k n \equiv k mod 5, and = 0 = 0 otherwise.

Initial step: When rolling n = 1 n = 1 dice, there are two ways for the sum to be equal to 1 mod 5 (namely, rolling 1 and rolling 6). This shows a 1 , 1 = 2 a_{1,1} = 2 . For k ≢ 1 k\not\equiv 1 , a 1 , k = 1 a_{1,k} = 1 . This satisfies the equation.

Induction step: Suppose that the formula is proven up to a certain value n n . Choose 1 m n 1 \leq m \leq n and let n = n + m n' = n+m . We will prove that the formula also holds for n n' .

We have a n , k = i + j k (5 terms) a n , i a m , j = i = 0 4 ( 6 n 1 5 + δ n i ) ( 6 m 1 5 + δ m j ) . a_{n',k} = \sum_{i + j \equiv k}^{\text{(5 terms)}} a_{n,i}a_{m,j} = \sum_{i = 0}^4 \left( \frac{6^n-1}5 + \delta_{ni}\right) \left( \frac{6^m-1}5 + \delta_{mj}\right). If k ≢ n k\not\equiv n' we must account for the δ \delta s in two of the terms, and find: a n , k = 5 6 n + m 6 n 6 m + 1 25 + 6 n 1 5 + 6 m 1 5 , a_{n',k} = 5\cdot \frac{6^{n+m}-6^n-6^m+1}{25} + \frac{6^n-1}{5} + \frac{6^m-1}{5}, and if k n k\equiv n' , the non-zero δ \delta s occur in the same term: a n , k = 5 6 n + m 6 n 6 m + 1 25 + 6 n 1 5 + 6 m 1 5 + 1. a_{n',k} = 5\cdot \frac{6^{n+m}-6^n-6^m+1}{25} + \frac{6^n-1}{5} + \frac{6^m-1}{5} + 1. In either case, we have a n , k = 6 n + m 6 n 6 m + 1 5 + 6 n 1 5 + 6 m 1 5 + δ n + m , k a_{n',k} = \frac{6^{n+m}-6^n-6^m+1}{5} + \frac{6^n-1}{5} + \frac{6^m-1}{5} + \delta_{n+m,k} = 6 n + m 1 5 + δ n + m , k . = \frac{6^{n+m}-1}5 + \delta_{n+m,k}. This completes the induction step.

Finally, if 5 n 5|n , n 0 n \equiv 0 mod 5. The probability of rolling a sum that is a multiple of 5 is a n , 0 6 n = 6 n 1 5 6 n . \frac{a_{n,0}}{6^n} = \frac{6^n-1}{5\cdot 6^n}.

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