Pulley Challenge!

A mass of 2 m 2m kg is suspended from the string on one side while two masses of m m kg are on the other side as shown.

The system starts at rest. Suddenly, the lower mass of m m kg is flicked up with velocity 40 m/s.

After how many seconds will the rope be taut again?

Details

  • g = 10 m/s 2 g = 10\text{ m/s}^2
  • Assume the rope is very long and the masses do not collide.


The answer is 6.

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3 solutions

As @satyen nabar said, when you flick the lower mass up, it'll stop pulling. System will lose the equilibrium, and the force on the left is less than on the right. There must be acceleration on the right.

Force from mass 2 m 2m due to gravity g g is 2 m g 2mg , and so the mass m m with force m g mg .

From Σ F = m a \Sigma F = ma

Resultant force 2 m g m g = m g 2mg - mg = mg , pulls the mass 3 m 3m downwards (right side), with acceleration a a .

m g = ( 3 m ) a mg = (3m)a

Therefore, a = g 3 m / s 2 \displaystyle a = \frac{g}{3}\ m/s^{2}

From s = u t + 1 2 a t 2 \displaystyle s = ut+\frac{1}{2}at^{2}

Consider the upper mass. Flicking the lower mass, neglecting how strong the rope is, doesn't affect the initial speed of the upper mass. Upper mass is pulled by right side with acceleration a = g 3 m / s 2 a = \displaystyle \frac{g}{3} m/s^{2} . Let t t be amount of time between starting to flick and starting to taut.

s 1 = 1 2 ( g 3 ) t 2 \displaystyle s_{1} = \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{g}{3}\right)t^{2} __(1)

Consider the lower mass. Flicking the lower mass at initial speed 40 m / s 40 m/s , in a gravitational field, acceleration a = g m / s 2 a = g \text{ }m/s^{2} , with time t t .

s 2 = 40 t + 1 2 g t 2 \displaystyle s_{2} = 40t + \frac{1}{2}gt^{2} __(2)

No matter where the masses are flicked or the ropes taut, the displacement between 2 masses are always the same, which means s 1 = s 2 s_{1} = s_{2} .

(1) = (2); we get 1 2 ( g 3 ) t 2 = 40 t + 1 2 g t 2 \displaystyle \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{g}{3}\right)t^{2} = 40t + \frac{1}{2}gt^{2} .

Take g = 10 m / s 2 g = 10 m/s^{2} and solve the equation we get t = 6 s t = \boxed{6 s} ~~~

Umm...Instead of using the second equation of motion twice, why don't we use the concept of relative acceleration?? That way, we could save time, and simply get one value of time. Should i post a solution regarding the same???

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years, 4 months ago

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I used that method. Why wasting time on long equation if we can solve them within minutes

Purushottam Abhisheikh - 6 years, 4 months ago

I used the same method but the answer I get is 3.

Akshay Sharma - 5 years, 5 months ago
Rohit Ner
Jan 26, 2015

will we not consider the distance covered by block of mass 2m in starting 4 sec ?? because immediately after impulse is given to block ..block of mass 2m move down with acceleration of g/3 ..and it will cover 80/3 m ..so after that both block will have to cover 160/3 m to taut the rope! if im not wrong

Saurabh Kumar - 6 years, 3 months ago
Satyen Nabar
Dec 2, 2014

When you flick lower mass up, it will stop pulling down on the upper mass. String goes slack and the heavier 2m mass hanging on the other side moves down, pulling upper mass with it. Now upper m is going up with acceleration while lower m is going up but with deceleration due to gravity.

String becomes taut again when both lower and upper mass have moved up by by identical height. Then the length of the string is restored and it becomes taut again since upper m accelerates up while lower m is accelerated down by gravity.

Movement of lower mass ---

s = ut + 1/2gt^2 = 40t - 5t^2

Let both lower and upper mass move up by distance s in time t. We have to find that value of t when distance traveled by both masses is equal.

Find Tension in the rope = T

Both 2m and upper m move at same acceleration a. 2m goes down, m goes up.

a= (2mg - T)/ 2m = (T-mg)/m

T = 4mg/3

So Force F pulling upper mass m upward is Tension minus its weight

F = 4mg/3 - mg = mg/3

Acceleration of upper mass = F/m = g/3 = 10/3

So motion of upper mass

s = ut +1/2at^2 = (5/3) t^2

Equating motion of both lower and upper masses

40 t - 5t^2 = (5/3) t^2

t = 6 seconds...

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