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Geometry Level 3

Which of the following graphs are equivalent?

1. b x + a y = x y \quad bx+ay=xy .
2. y = b x x a \quad y=\dfrac{bx}{x-a} .
3. a x + b y = 1 \quad \dfrac{a}{x}+\dfrac{b}{y}=1 .


This problem is a submission of Problem Writing Party May 2016 .
(2) and (3) only (1) and (3) only (1), (2) and (3) None, they are all distinct graphs (1) and (2) only

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1 solution

展豪 張
May 4, 2016

For ( 2 ) (2) , x a x\neq a .
For ( 3 ) (3) , x , y 0 x,y\neq 0 .
Although after some algebraic manipulation they look the same, the graph of ( 2 ) (2) and ( 3 ) (3) are missing some points.
They are all distinct graphs.

For (1) also, same as (2) x a x\neq a

Rajen Kapur - 5 years, 1 month ago

(1) and (2) are equivalent because but are not defined for x = a.

No Kia - 5 years, 1 month ago

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@Rajen Kapur @No Kia Consider when b = 0 b=0 , (1) is two perpendicular straight line ( x = a x=a or y = 0 y=0 ). (2) is only one straight line ( y = 0 y=0 ).

展豪 張 - 5 years, 1 month ago

This question seems unreasonable because it cannot be properly answered without having some information about a and b. Equations 1 and 2 ARE equivalent unless a or b are zero; if that case really is to be considered, the question should make that clear, e.g. "Which of the following graphs are equivalent over all possible real values of a and b?" or something like that.

It's similar to being asked "Is A x + B y = C Ax+By=C the equation of a line?" with only two possible answers, Yes and No, and having to choose No simply because if A A and B B are both zero, the equation represents either the empty set or the entire x y xy -plane. It's technically correct, but it feels like a misrepresentation.

zico quintina - 3 years, 1 month ago

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What do you mean? 2 graphs are equivalent only if every single point is the same. I mean every single point.

Steven Jim - 3 years, 1 month ago

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Absolutely, but that is not what my comment was about. Let's use a specific example: suppose a = 2 a=2 and b = 3 b=3 . Then equation 1 is 3 x + 2 y = x y 3x+2y=xy and equation 2 is y = 3 x x 2 y=\dfrac{3x}{x-2} . These equations ARE equivalent in every single point; in particular, there is no point with x = 2 x=2 on either graph. The same would be true for any other non-zero values of a a and b b .

Of course we always have to consider every permissible value of every variable in an equation; but coefficients/constants are a bit different. The only time equations 1 and 2 are not equivalent is when either a = 0 a=0 or b = 0 b=0 ; that was my point, that these two cases alone should not be sufficient to stop 1 and 2 from being called equivalent, unless we're specifically told to consider all possible values of a a and b b .

zico quintina - 3 years, 1 month ago

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