Mathathon 2020 Problem 2 - Easy

Algebra Level 1

16 x 2 + 8 x + 1 = y 2 16x^{2} + 8x + 1 = y^{2}

Find the positive value of y y if x = 1 x = 1


The answer is 5.

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12 solutions

Elijah L
Jul 19, 2020

Factoring the left-hand side and solving: ( 4 x + 1 ) 2 = y 2 y = ± ( 4 x + 1 ) y = ± 5 \begin{aligned} (4x+1)^2 &= y^2\\ y &= \pm (4x+1)\\ y &= \pm 5 \end{aligned}

The question should be a bit more specific as to whether the positive or negative root should be accepted. So the answer is technically ± 5 \boxed{\pm 5} . However, if the question gets edited to dismiss the negative root, we get that the answer is 5 \boxed{5} .

Uniqueness 10 Different approach by factoring the polynomial first. Nice
Latex 8 Latex your text please, or don't use text, like @Vinayak Srivastava
No Mistakes 10 Correct answer and no mistakes
Clarity 3 Explain how you made the polynomial = 4x + 1
Time 10 First solution
@Elijah L 's Total 41 Awesome!
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A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

test \textnormal{test}

I'm honestly not sure how to use LaTeX \LaTeX without the italics. The italics indicate math mode, and text is not always math mode.

Elijah L - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Nevermind, got it.

Elijah L - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

@Elijah L - See my Latex Guide for Italics text, and more!

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Its at the bottom of my feed!

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

This is not the first solution, I posted first, you can see the time.

Vinayak Srivastava - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Percy Jackson

Vinayak Srivastava - 10 months, 3 weeks ago
Rhea Kavuru
Jul 23, 2020

16 x 2 + 8 x + 1 = y 2 16x^2 + 8x + 1=y^2

( 4 x + 1 ) ( 4 x + 1 ) = y 2 (4x + 1)(4x + 1)=y^2

( 4 x + 1 ) 2 = y 2 (4x + 1)^2=y^2

± ( 4 x + 1 ) = y ± (4x + 1) = y

± 5 = y ± 5 = y

Since y y has to be a positive value, y = 5 \boxed{y = 5}

Oh I didn’t realize that!!

Rhea Kavuru - 10 months, 2 weeks ago
Feng Li
Jul 21, 2020

if x = 1:

16 * 1^2 + 8 * 1 + 1 = y^2

25 = y^2

for y >= 0:

y = 5

I can see my mark

Feng Li - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Uniqueness 0 Common approach
Latex 0 You know why......
No Mistakes 10 The solution has no mistakes
Clarity 10 The solution is clear
Time 1 10th solution
@Feng Li 's Total 21 Try using Latex next time1

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago
Lorenz W.
Jul 20, 2020

As a beginning we can rephrase our equation:

y 2 = 16 x 2 + 8 x + 1 y^2 = 16x^2 + 8x + 1 is the same as y = ( 16 x 2 + 8 x + 1 ) 1 2 y = (16x^2 + 8x + 1)^\frac{^1}{2}

Then we let x equal 1.

y = ( 16 1 2 + 8 1 + 1 ) 1 2 y = (16 \cdot 1^2 + 8 \cdot 1 + 1)^\frac{^1}{2}

y = ( 16 + 8 + 1 ) 1 2 = 25 = 5 y = (16 + 8 + 1 )^\frac{1}{2} = \sqrt{25} = 5

As an alternative we could look at the graph of this function and use our eyes: ;)

Website used for the alternative solution: GeoGebra graphic calculator

Uniqueness 5 For the graph
Latex 8 You could have used \text and links
No Mistakes 10 The solution has no mistakes
Clarity 10 The solution is clearly explained
Time 0 11th solution
@Lorenz W. 's Total 33 Good Job!

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago
Frisk Dreemurr
Jul 20, 2020

Multiplication by +1 would not change the final output for positive and negative numbers, \text{Multiplication by +1 would not change the final output for positive and negative numbers,}

so we can just ignore the multiplication altogether \text{so we can just ignore the multiplication altogether}

16 x 2 + 8 x + 1 = y 2 16x^2 + 8x + 1 = y^2

16 + 8 + 1 = y 2 16 + 8 + 1 = y^2

25 = y 2 25 = y^2

25 = y √25 = y

5 = y \boxed{5 = y}

@Percy Jackson

Frisk Dreemurr - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Uniqueness 0 same old, same old
Latex 10 for equations and quote
No Mistakes 10 The solution has no mistakes
Clarity 10 The solution is clear
Time 2 9th solution
@Hamza Anushath 's Total 32 Great Job!

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

y = 16 x 2 + 8 x + 1 = 16 x 2 + 4 x + 4 x + 1 = 4 x ( 4 x + 1 ) + 4 x + 1 = ( 4 x + 1 ) 2 = 4 x + 1 = 5 \begin{aligned} y&=\sqrt{16x^2+8x+1}\\ &=\sqrt{\blue{16x^2+4x}+4x+1}\\ &=\sqrt{4x\blue{(4x+1)}+\blue{4x+1}}\\ &=\sqrt{(4x+1)^2}\\ &=4x+1\\ &=5 \end{aligned}

16 x 2 + 8 x + 1 = 0 x = 8 ± ( 64 64 ) 32 x = 0.25 ( x 0.25 ) ( x 0.25 ) = 0 ( 4 x 1 ) ( 4 x 1 ) = 16 0 16x^2+8x+1=0\\ x=\cfrac{-8\pm(64-64)}{32}\\ x=0.25\\ (x-0.25)(x-0.25)=0\\ (4x-1)(4x-1)=16\cdot0

Uniqueness 10 You used the Quadratic Equation, I have no choice.
Latex 10 colors, quotes and here too you give me no choice
No Mistakes 10 The solution has no mistakes
Clarity 10 Pretty clear!
Time 3 8th solution
@Páll Márton 's Total 43 Cool!

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

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Thank you! The internet is bad there and I don't have computer now, so I won't post solutions now. Maybe 1 or 2 is possible.

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Break up the equation \text{Break up the equation}

16 x 2 + 4 x + 4 x + 1 = y 2 \Large{16x^2 + 4x + 4x + 1 = y^2}

Factor \text{Factor}

4 x ( 4 x + 1 ) + 1 ( 4 x + 1 ) = y 2 \Large{4x(4x + 1) + 1(4x +1) = y^2}

Combine \text{Combine}

( 4 x + 1 ) 2 = y 2 \Large{(4x + 1)^2 = y^2}

Remove the powers \text{Remove the powers}

( 4 x + 1 ) 2 = y 2 \Large{\sqrt{(4x + 1)^2 = y^2}}

Substitute \text{Substitute}

4 ( 1 ) + 1 = y \Large{4(1) + 1 = y}

y = 5 \huge{\boxed{y = 5}}

Uniqueness 5 No one showed why its equal to 4x + 1 so 5 points
Latex 10 Latex is pretty good, with sizes and all!
No Mistakes 9 Correct answer but you can't take the root of the equal sign LOL
Clarity 10 Prettttty clear!
Time 4 7th solution
@Abhinandan Shrimal 's Total 38 Awesome!

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

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haha so true with the No mistakes Judgement

Anonymous Ninja - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

y ( > 0 ) = 16 × 1 2 + 8 × 1 + 1 = 25 = 5 y(>0)=\sqrt {16\times 1^2+8\times 1+1}=\sqrt {25}=\boxed 5 .

Uniqueness 10 Different approach by taking it as a simple equation
Latex 10 Everything is Latex-ed :)
No Mistakes 10 Correct answer and no mistakes
Clarity 10 Very clear answer
Time 5 6th Solution
@Alak Bhattacharya 's Total 45 Awesome!

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago
Jeff Giff
Jul 19, 2020

When we factor a polynomial, we can check whether it is in the form a 2 x 2 + 2 a x + 1 a^2x^2+2ax+1 . In this question, a = 4 a=4 . This is equal to { ( 4 x + 1 ) 2 = y 2 , x = 1. \begin{cases} (4x+1)^2=y^2,\\ x=1. \end{cases} So the positive value of y y is simply ( 4 x + 1 ) 2 = 4 x + 1 = 5. \sqrt{(4x+1)^2}=4x+1=5.

Uniqueness 0 Same approach as Mahdi and Elijah
Latex 5 Only the numbers and equations have been Latex-ed, its a short solution so try adding text Latex next time
No Mistakes 10 The solution has no mistakes
Clarity 10 Very clear solution!
Time 6 5th solution
@Jeff Giff 's Total 31 Great!

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago
Zakir Husain
Jul 19, 2020

Just substitute x = 1 x=1 y 2 = 16 ( 1 ) 2 + 8 ( 1 ) + 1 y^2 = 16(1)^2+8(1)+1 = 16 + 8 + 1 1 2 = 1 \quad=16+8+1\quad\blue{\because 1^2=1} = 8 ( 2 ) + 8 + 1 16 = 8 ( 2 ) \quad=8(2)+8+1\quad\blue{\because 16=8(2)} = 8 ( 2 + 1 ) + 1 = 8 ( 3 ) + 1 = 24 + 1 = 25 =8(2+1)+1=8(3)+1=24+1=25 y 2 = 25 y = + 25 = + 5 \Rightarrow y^2=25\Rightarrow y={^+_-}\sqrt{25}={^+_-}5 As y y is to be positive y = 5 \Rightarrow y=\boxed{5}

Uniqueness 8 Same approach, but different way of substitution so 8 points
Latex 10 Nice colors!
No Mistakes 10 The solution has no mistakes
Clarity 10 Very clear solution!
Time 7 4th solution
@Zakir Husain 's Total 45 Cool!

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

@Percy Jackson Thanks!

Zakir Husain - 10 months, 3 weeks ago
Mahdi Raza
Jul 19, 2020
  • Any polynomial to be in the form of ( a x + b ) 2 (ax + b)^2 , the polynomial is:

a 2 x 2 + 2 a b x + b 2 16 x 2 + 8 x + 1 \begin{aligned} a^2x^2 + 2abx+ b^2 \\16x^2 + 8x + 1 \end{aligned}

  • Here we observe that a = 4 a = 4 AND b = 1 b = 1 .

16 x 2 + 8 x + 1 = ( 4 x + 1 ) 2 16x^2 + 8x + 1 = (4x + 1)^2

  • Given that x = 1 x = 1 , we substitute that and find

y 2 = ( 4 ( 1 ) + 1 ) 2 y 2 = 5 2 y 2 5 2 = 0 ( y + 5 ) ( y 5 ) = 0 y = ± 5 \begin{aligned} y^2 &= (4(1) + 1)^2 \\ y^2 &= 5^2 \\ y^2 - 5^2 &= 0 \\ (y+5)(y-5) &=0 \\ y = \pm 5 \end{aligned}

  • Since it is said to answer as the positive value of y y , the answer is

5 \boxed{5}

Uniqueness 10 Different approach by factoring the polynomial
Latex 10 I would've reduced a point for no Latex-ing the text, but it isn't necessary, as you have used bullet list
No Mistakes 10 Correct answer and no mistakes!
Clarity 10 Well explained!
Time 8 Third solution
@Mahdi Raza ' s Total 48 Awesome!

A Former Brilliant Member - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

y 2 = 16 x 2 + 8 x + 1 y 2 = 16 + 8 + 1 ( x = 1 ) y^2=16x^2+8x+1 \implies y^2=16+8+1 (x=1) y 2 = 25 y = 25 = ± 5 \implies y^2=25 \implies y =\sqrt{25} = \boxed{\pm 5}

Scores?(Maybe I won't participate, but I want them!)

Vinayak Srivastava - 10 months, 4 weeks ago

@Vinayak Srivastava - Should I add your scores in leaderboard or not?

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