Z \mathbb Z Complex Minima

Algebra Level 3

If Z Z is a non-zero complex number, then find the minimum value of

Im ( Z 5 ) ( Im ( Z ) ) 5 . \displaystyle \dfrac{\text{Im}(Z^{5})}{(\text{Im}(Z))^{5} }.

Clarification: Im ( Z ) \text{Im}(Z) represent the imaginary part of Z Z .


The answer is -4.

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3 solutions

Adam Micevski
Jan 1, 2015

Change z z to x + y i x+yi I m ( ( x + y i ) 5 ) I m ( x + y i ) 5 \frac { Im({ (x+yi ) }^{ 5 }) }{ { Im({ x+yi }) }^{ 5 } } \\ I m ( x + y i ) Im({ x+yi }) is just y y . Expand brackets in the numerator and take the imaginary part to get the overall expression: y ( 5 x 4 + 10 x 2 y 2 + y 4 ) y 5 \frac { y(5{ x }^{ 4 }+10{ x }^{ 2 }{ y }^{ 2 }+{ y }^{ 4 }) }{ { y }^{ 5 } } Simplify: 5 x 4 + 10 x 2 y 2 + y 4 y 4 5 x 4 y 4 + 10 x 2 y 2 + 1 \frac { 5{ x }^{ 4 }+10{ x }^{ 2 }{ y }^{ 2 }+{ y }^{ 4 } }{ { y }^{ 4 } } \\ 5\frac { { x }^{ 4 } }{ { y }^{ 4 } } +10\frac { { x }^{ 2 } }{ { y }^{ 2 } } +1 Let w = x y w=\frac { x }{ y } and set the expression to f ( w ) f(w) . f ( w ) = 5 w 4 10 w 2 + 1 f(w)=5{w}^{ 4 }-10{ w }^{ 2 }+1 Derive the new function and then set the derivative to 0 to find where the minimum occurs: f ( w ) = 20 w 3 20 w 0 = 20 w ( w 2 1 ) f^{ \prime }\left( w \right)=20{ w }^{ 3 }-20w\\ 0=20w({w}^{ 2 }-1) Solving this equation gives w = 0 w=0 or w = 1 w=1 . Substitute values back into the original function to find the minimum and maximum: f ( 0 ) = 5 ( 0 ) 4 10 ( 0 ) 2 + 1 = 1 f ( 1 ) = 5 ( 1 ) 4 10 ( 1 ) 2 + 1 = 4 f(0)=5{ (0) }^{ 4 }-10{ (0) }^{ 2 }+1 = 1\\ f(1)=5{ (1) }^{ 4 }-10{ (1) }^{ 2 }+1 = -4

The minimum is 4 \boxed{-4} as 4 < 1 -4 < 1 .

The solution can be completely elementary if you completed squares rather than differentiation. Especially considering a lot of younger users in this place, such a solution will be completely comprehensive. Anyway, nice work!

I am talking about writing 5 w 4 10 w 2 + 1 = 5 ( w 2 1 ) 2 4 4. 5w^4 - 10w^2 + 1 = 5(w^2 - 1)^2 - 4 \geq -4.

Sri Kanth - 6 years, 5 months ago

It would be helpful to first mention that [ I m ( x + y i ) ] 5 = y 5 [ Im( x + yi) ] ^ 5 = y ^ 5 , and likewise for I m [ ( x + y i ) 5 ] Im [ ( x + yi)^5 ] . Otherwise, people might be confused in understanding the equation, since [ I m ( x + y i ) ] 5 y 4 [ Im ( x + yi) ] ^ 5 \neq y^4 .

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 5 months ago

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I've edited it to make it a bit clearer.

Adam Micevski - 6 years, 5 months ago

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Perfect :)

to be honest, it tripped me up when I first read it, which is why I made the comment.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 5 months ago

Nice! While the initial stages (expanding ( x + i y ) 5 (x+iy)^{5} ) were pretty nasty, the derivative of f ( w ) f(w) looks way easier than differentiating sin ( 5 x ) sin 5 x \frac{\sin(5x)}{\sin^{5} x} . Also, you forgot to mention that while the solution w = 0 w = 0 gives a maximum, two solutions w = ± 1 w = \pm 1 both give minima.

Jake Lai - 6 years, 5 months ago

Nice derivation, a couple minor corrections:

  • Second term of the second equation should be negative, same for the following equations. This is corrected at the w = x / y w = x/y substitution.
  • There is a third solution to the derivative: w = 1 w = -1 . This also evaluates to f ( 1 ) = 4 f(-1) = -4 though, so it doesn't affect the answer.

Bennet Huber - 5 years, 5 months ago
Jake Lai
Jan 1, 2015

WLOG let Z = e i x = cos x + i sin x Z = e^{ix} = \cos x + i\sin x . Hence, I m ( Z 5 ) = I m ( e 5 i x ) = sin ( 5 x ) Im(Z^{5}) = Im(e^{5ix}) = \sin(5x) and I m 5 ( Z ) = sin 5 x Im^{5}(Z) = \sin^{5} x .

We find d d x sin ( 5 x ) sin 5 x = 10 csc 5 x ( cos x + cos ( 3 x ) ) \dfrac{d}{dx} \frac{\sin(5x)}{\sin^{5} x} = -10\csc^{5} x(\cos x+\cos(3x)) , eliminate non-zero terms and set it to 0:

cos x + cos ( 3 x ) = 0 \cos x+\cos(3x) = 0

We can see that the roots occur at x i = ± π 4 , ± π 2 , ± 3 π 4 , ± 5 π 4 , x_{i} = \pm \frac{\pi}{4}, \pm \frac{\pi}{2}, \pm \frac{3\pi}{4}, \pm \frac{5\pi}{4}, \ldots ; checking D ( x i ) = d d x cos x + cos ( 3 x ) x = x i D(x_{i}) = \dfrac{d}{dx} \cos x+\cos(3x) |_{x=x_{i}} shows that every other root, ie x 2 i = π 2 , π 4 , 3 π 4 , x_{2i} = -\frac{\pi}{2}, \frac{\pi}{4}, \frac{3\pi}{4}, \ldots is a maximum since D ( x 2 i ) < 0 D(x_{2i}) < 0 .

Substituting in any x 2 i x_{2i} into sin ( 5 x ) sin 5 x \frac{\sin(5x)}{\sin^{5} x} gives

min ( sin ( 5 x ) sin 5 x ) = 1 2 ( 1 2 ) 5 = 4 \min \left( \frac{\sin(5x)}{\sin^{5} x} \right) = \frac{-\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}}{(\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}})^{5}} = \boxed{-4}

That's the better way ! (although ultimately same ) Good Work ! :D

Keshav Tiwari - 6 years, 5 months ago

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I think Adam's method is slightly better because it's purely algebraic (other than differentiation).

Jake Lai - 6 years, 5 months ago

I have one doubt in Jake's method. It restrict the Re(Z) and Im(Z) between -1 and 1 as the coefficients are sin and cos function which can't lie outside -1 and 1. This kind of restriction is not there in Adam's method

Himanshu Mittal - 5 years, 6 months ago

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To make it general write Z = r e i x = r ( c o s x + i s i n x ) Z=re^{ix}=r(cosx+isinx) Ultimately the answer is same because r cancels out.

Manish Bhat - 5 years, 5 months ago
Nitin Mishra
Feb 15, 2017

let z=x+iy Now, (x+iy)^2=(x^2-y^2 +2xyi)……(1) Again multiply eqn 1 two times We get (x+iy)^4 Now [Im{(x+iy) *(x+iy)^4}/Im(z^5)]=5(x/y)^4 -10(x/y)^2 +1 Let us assume f(y)=5(x/y)^4 -10(x/y)^2 +1 Now df/dy=0 gives [x^2=y^2] Putting above we get the result -4

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