Maximize Euler

Geometry Level 5

Given a triangle of an area of 11 and a perimeter of 16, find the maximum perpendicular distance between the incenter and the Euler line .

For example, if A B C \triangle ABC were such a triangle (where O , H , I O,H,I represent the circumcenter , orthocenter , and incenter , respectively), find the largest possible value of I D ID .


The answer is 0.247944.

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1 solution

Chris Lewis
Mar 31, 2021

If a triangle's incentre lies on its Euler line, it must be isosceles (and vice-versa); so in a sense this problem is asking for the "most scalene" triangle with perimeter 16 16 and area 11 11 .

I didn't get very far analytically (but would be interested if someone did); the basis of my numerical approach was as follows:

Call the triangle's area T T and its semiperimeter s s . Let its sidelengths be a , b , c a,b,c (as usual opposite vertices A , B , C A,B,C respectively).

We know T T and s s ; let's make a a a parameter. By definition, b + c = 2 s a b+c=2s-a

Now, from Heron's formula, s ( s a ) ( s b ) ( s c ) = T 2 s ( s a ) ( s 2 ( b + c ) s + b c ) = T 2 s ( s a ) ( s 2 ( 2 s a ) s + b c ) = T 2 s ( s a ) ( b c s ( s a ) ) = T 2 b c = s ( s a ) + T 2 s ( s a ) \begin{aligned} s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c) &=T^2 \\ s(s-a)\left( s^2-(b+c)s+bc\right) &= T^2 \\ s(s-a)\left( s^2-(2s-a)s+bc\right) &= T^2 \\ s(s-a)( bc - s(s-a)) &= T^2 \\ bc &= s(s-a)+\frac{T^2}{s(s-a)} \end{aligned}

Knowing b + c b+c and b c bc means we can find b b and c c as the roots of a quadratic (up to a choice of sign).

We also have T = r s T=rs and 4 R T = a b c 4RT=abc where r r and R R are the inradius and circumradius respectively. So r = T s , R = a b c 4 T r=\frac{T}{s},\;\;\;\;R=\frac{abc}{4T}

Now, it's possible to proceed in a few ways. We can embed everything in a Cartesian coordinate system (which works but is messy); we can use trilinear coordinates to find the distance between the incentre and the Euler line (this involves a lot of trig); or we can try to stick with geometry as long as possible.

Recall the Euler line goes through the circumcentre O O and the centroid G G . We want the distance to the incentre I I . With a bit of internet based research, we can find the following: O I = R ( R 2 r ) , G I = 1 3 5 r 2 16 R r + s 2 , G O = R 2 1 9 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) OI=\sqrt{R(R-2r)},\;\;\;GI=\frac13 \sqrt{5r^2-16Rr+s^2},\;\;\; GO=\sqrt{R^2-\frac19 \left(a^2+b^2+c^2\right)}

ie we have all the sidelengths of the triangle Δ I G O \Delta IGO in terms of quantities we've already found; and the distance we want is the altitude of this triangle from I I .


I didn't fancy the algebra here so just proceeded numerically (from the above we can try values of a a and calculate the distance); I used a golden section search to find the maximum distance, which came out to be 0.2794 \boxed{0.2794\ldots} when the sides of the triangle were approximately 3.9734 , 5.5766 , 6.4500 ) 3.9734,5.5766,6.4500) .


Bonus question (although, really, it's the original question again): in what way is this the most scalene triangle satisfying the conditions? Is there some simple geometric intuition here?

@Fletcher Mattox - is this similar to your approach? Any thoughts on this measure of scalene-ness?

Chris Lewis - 2 months, 1 week ago

Hi Chris. I, too, gave up on an analytical solution and used trilinear coordinates for the centers with a sequential quadratic programming method from the python scipy library to find the same solution you did. I'd post the code but it uses home-grown libraries and is basically boring anyway. :)

Regarding scalene-ness: I recognized the anti-isosceles quality you mention. I started out thinking about how to quantify the "scalenity" of a triangle, which is a term I cleverly thought I had originated until I googled it here , but was unable to generalize it into anything interesting.

Fletcher Mattox - 2 months, 1 week ago

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