Meandering charge

Two charges Q=+1 mC are placed along the x-axis at x=-2 meters and x=2 meters. The charges are fixed in space. A third charge, which is free to move and has charge q=-0.1 mC and mass m=1g, is placed along the y-axis at y=0.01 meters and released. How long does it take in seconds for the charge to come back to y=0.01?

Details and assumptions

  • k = ( 4 π ϵ 0 ) 1 = 9 × 1 0 9 N m 2 / C 2 k=(4 \pi \epsilon_0)^{-1}= 9 \times 10^9~Nm^2/C^2


The answer is 0.0132.

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7 solutions

Jau Tung Chan
May 20, 2014

First off, it is clear that the original resultant force of the first 2 charges on the third charge is acting only downwards, since the horizontal forces cancel out. Qualitatively, it is obvious that the third charge will be attracted downwards by the first 2 charges, then because of its inertia, it would be able to continue downwards till y = 0.01 y = -0.01 , before being attracted by the first 2 charges again and repeating the process to reach y = 0.01 y = 0.01 again. Now we consider a quantitative description.

Let the third charge be at a position y = x y = x . The distance between this charge and either of the other 2 charges is 4 + x 2 \sqrt{4 + x^2} by Pythagoras' Theorem. The force acting on the third charge by one of the first 2 charges is given by the formula, F = k q 1 q 2 r 2 = ( 9 × 1 0 9 ) ( 1 0 3 ) ( 1 0 4 ) ( 4 + x 2 ) = 900 4 + x 2 F = k \frac{q_1 q_2}{r^2} = (9 \times 10^9) \frac{(10^{-3})(10^{-4})}{(4 + x^2)} = \frac{900}{4+x^2} . Now, since the horizontal forces will clearly cancel out, we are only concerned with the vertical forces, hence, we calculate the vertical component of this force due both of the first 2 charges: F y , e f f = 2 ( 900 4 + x 2 ) ( x 4 + x 2 ) = 1800 x ( 4 + x 2 ) 3 F_{y,eff} = 2(\frac{900}{4+x^2})(\frac{x}{ \sqrt{4 + x^2}} ) = \frac{1800x}{\sqrt{(4 + x^2)^3}} .

In this case, x x is small, since x x ranges from 0.01 -0.01 to 0.01 0.01 only. Hence, we can approximate 4 + x 2 4 = 2 \sqrt{4 + x^2} \approx \sqrt{4} = 2 .

Thus, we have that F y , e f f ( 1800 8 ) x = 225 x F_{y,eff} \approx ( \frac{1800}{8} ) x = 225x . If we consider the direction of the force in relation to the displacement x x , it is obvious that the force acts in the opposite direction to the displacement, and hence this is the familiar form of Simple Harmonic Motion F = k x F = -kx . In this case, k = 225 k = 225 , and we have that the period of SHM is as such: T = 2 π ω = 2 π k m = 2 π 225 1 0 3 = 0.0132 T = \frac{2 \pi}{ \omega} = \frac{ 2 \pi }{ \sqrt{ \frac{k}{m} }} = \frac{ 2 \pi }{ \sqrt{ \frac{225}{10^{-3}} } } = 0.0132 .

Lars McGee
May 20, 2014

Sacrificing 3 orders of magnitude, assume the distance from the third charge to each of the other charges is always 2m. Then each of the positive charges, by Coulomb's law, exerts a force of k Q 1 Q 2 r 2 = 225 N \frac{kQ_1Q_2}{r^2} = -225N on the negative charge with a vertical component of 225 y 2 N \frac{-225y}{2} N . The horizontal components cancel out, so the negative charge experiences a net force of about -225y N along the y-axis, which we notice follows Hooke's law with k = 225. Thus, we have simple harmonic motion with period 2 π m k = . 0132 s 2\pi \sqrt{\frac{m}{k}} = \boxed{.0132 s} .

Just a note. The 'sacrificing three orders of magnitude' really means the following: The forces in the x-direction cancel out exactly. In the y direction, the corrections to the given expression above from the change in the distance in Coulomb's law will be suppressed by powers of (y/2), which is very small and so can be ignored.

David Mattingly Staff - 7 years ago
Erick Wong
May 20, 2014

Let θ \theta be the angle between the moving charge and the x x -axis charge, measured from either of the fixed charges. Since y y is so small compared to x x , we make the simplifying approximation that θ sin θ tan θ \theta \approx \sin \theta \approx \tan \theta and cos θ 1 \cos \theta \approx 1 . Thus y = 2 tan θ 2 θ y = 2 \tan\theta \approx 2 \theta .

The force exerted by a fixed charge on the moving charge is k q 1 q 2 / ( 4 cos 2 θ ) 225 k q_1 q_2 / (4 \cos^2 \theta) \approx -225 Newtons. The vertical component of this force is 225 sin θ 225 θ - 225 \sin \theta \approx -225 \theta , so the two charges exert a combined force of 450 θ -450 \theta (the horizontal components cancel out). The acceleration of the particle is therefore y ¨ = 450000 θ 225000 y \ddot{y} = -450000 \theta \approx -225000 y .

This is an equation of simple harmonic motion with period 2 π / 225000 = π / 75 10 = 0.013246 2 \pi / \sqrt{225000} = \pi /75\sqrt{10} = 0.013246 seconds.

N K
May 20, 2014

According to coloumb law the return force on the negative charge is 2xAbs{9x10^9x(1E-3x-0.1E-3)/2^2}=450N.

The return force acting on the negative charge along the displacement line is 450x(0.01/2)=2.25N, but this force is also displacing the charge 0.01 meter. So let's see this situation as of an oscillating spring with a K constant of K= 225/0.01=225N/m.

The period of which is given by T=2xPIxSQRT(M/K) where in this case we have M=0.001Kgmass and K=225N/M. Crank the formula for T using the last data and that will give T=0.01324 Sec

Apurv Goel
May 20, 2014

Net force on 0.1mC charge is given as –(2kqQx)/(2^2 + x^2)^3/2

at a distance x from origin

as x = 0.01 <<< 4 so neglecting x in denominator, we get force = –(2kqQx)/(2^2)^3/2

comparing it with equation of simple harmonic motion, we get

w^2 = (2kqQ)/m(2^2)^3/2 w= angular frequency

and time taken to return back is = time period of SHM

                                                   = 2π/w

                                                    = 2π x 4(m/kqQ)^1/2

                 Putting values given we get T = 0.0133s
Michael Sheng
May 20, 2014

F 1 , x = F 2 , x F n e t , x = 0 F 1 , y = F 2 , y = 1 4 π ϵ Q q r 2 ( y r ) F n e t = F 1 , y + F 2 , y = 2 ( 1 4 π ϵ Q q y r 3 ) r = d 2 + y 2 d , since d = 2 m y = 0.01 m F n e t = 2 ( 1 4 π ϵ Q q y d 3 ) = k y k = 2 ( 9 × 1 0 9 × 1 × 1 0 3 × ( 0.1 ) × 1 0 3 2 3 ) = 225 N/m T = 2 π m k = 2 π 1 × 1 0 3 225 = 0.0132 sec. F_{1,x}=-F_{2,x}\Rightarrow F_{net,x}=0\\ F_{1,y}=F_{2,y}=\frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon }\frac{Qq}{r^2}\left(\frac{y}{r}\right)\\\Rightarrow F_{net}=F_{1,y}+F_{2,y}=2\left(\frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon }\frac{Qqy}{r^3}\right)\\ r=\sqrt{d^2+y^2}\approx d, \text{since } d=2\text{m}\gg y=0.01\text{m}\\ F_{net}=2\left(\frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon }\frac{Qqy}{d^3}\right)=-ky\\ k=-2\left(9\times10^9\times\frac{1\times10^-3\times(-0.1)\times10^-3}{2^3}\right)=225 \text{ N/m}\\ T=2\pi \sqrt{\frac{m}{k}}=2\pi\sqrt{\frac{1\times10^-3}{225}}=0.0132 \text{ sec.}

David Mattingly Staff
May 13, 2014

To find the motion of the charge q we first need to find the forces acting on it. Since the problem is symmetrical the force in the x-direction cancels out. We are therefore left with the y-component of the force, which is

F y = k Q q ( 2 ) 2 + y 2 y ( ( 2 ) 2 + y 2 ) 1 / 2 k Q q 2 2 + y 2 y ( 2 2 + y 2 ) 1 / 2 = 2 k Q q y ( 4 + y 2 ) 3 / 2 F_y=-\frac{k Q q}{(-2)^2+y^2} \frac{y} {((-2)^2+y^2)^{1/2}} -\frac{k Q q}{2^2+y^2} \frac{y} {(2^2+y^2)^{1/2}}=-\frac{2k Q qy}{(4+y^2)^{3/2}} ,

from Coulomb's law and the geometry that projects out the y-component. y in the above expression is the y coordinate of q. Since y<<2, we can neglect y 2 y^2 in the denominator and we see something interesting - the force is exactly the same form as a simple harmonic oscillator F y = K y F_y=-Ky where K K is a constant! Therefore the motion is simple harmonic motion and we can read the period off as

T = 2 π m K = 2 π 4 m k Q q = 0.013 s T=2\pi \sqrt{\frac {m} {K}}=2 \pi \sqrt{\frac{4m}{kQq}}=0.013~s .

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