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If 6 < 3 , 6<3, then 6 < 7. 6<7.

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3 solutions

Efren Medallo
May 20, 2017

The truth function of the material conditional P Q P \rightarrow Q is logically equivalent to ¬ P Q \lnot P \lor Q , and it will only give a false value when P P is true, and Q Q is false. The given function provides a false P P and a true Q Q , telling us that this whole conditional is true.

To put into perspective why it works this way, let us assign some statements to P P and Q Q .

P P = I eat a lot of unhealthy chips.

Q Q = I get fat.

So, we are trying to claim that, "If I eat a lot of unhealthy chips, I get fat."

There are now four possibilities:

  • I ate a lot of chips, and I got fat. ( P P true, Q Q true)

Obviously then, if this were the case, the claim was true. ( P Q P \rightarrow Q is true).

  • I didn't eat a lot of chips, and I didn't get fat. ( P P false, Q Q false)

Now, the claim remains to be true, as it was never promised that I will get fat if I didn't eat a lot of chips. ( P Q P \rightarrow Q is true).

  • I ate a lot of chips, and I didn't get fat. ( P P true, Q Q false)

Now here, since the claim above states otherwise (I should've gotten fat), then we render the claim as false. ( P Q P \rightarrow Q is false).

  • I didn't ate a lot of chips, and still I got fat ( P P false, Q Q true )

Although the fact that I got fat isn't from eating chips, the claim didn't promise that I wouldn't get fat if I didn't eat a lot of chips. ( P Q P \rightarrow Q is true).

From here we can see that only a false conclusion derived from a true antecedent renders a claim false.

Rajdeep Ghosh
May 20, 2017

Read Carefully.

Let's store 6 in a variable a.

Our statement becomes:

If a < 3 a<3 then a < 7 a<7 .

You tell me whether this is true.

But 6 is not a variable. You can't just make it a variable. That's not how math works. I could say, with equal validity, "Let's say < means >. The statement becomes "If 6>3 then 7>6". This is simply changing the definition to make the problem work.

Alex Li - 4 years ago

can you help me in figuring out what is wrong in the way i did 6<3 ,this implies 2<1 (by dividing both sides by 3) now, 2<1, 2+1<1+1 (adding 1 on both sides of inequality)
therefore, 3<2 , similarly by adding 1 on both sides of inequality step by step 4<3, 5<4, 6<5, 7<6, so i arrived that 7<6 !!

Ayush Sharma - 4 years ago

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Sure. The mistake you are doing is that you're taking my initial statement,i.e-6<3 TRUE. That statement has an 'if' quantifier in front of it. So, it might not be true. That is why you're ending up with a false statement at last, The truth of the statements themselves do not affect the problem. It is the whole statement that matters. If there are still any doubts then I suggest you take a look at the solution by Efren Medallo. It is better than mine.

Rajdeep Ghosh - 4 years ago

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Got it !! Thank you sir

Ayush Sharma - 4 years ago

@Rajdeep Ghosh Could you please answer the following two statements for the same options you gave in this problem: St.1 : "If 6 is a prime, then 30 has only 2 prime factors." St.2 : "If 6 is a prime, then 30 has only 3 prime factors." Thank you.

Satvik Golechha - 4 years ago

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According to me, Both statements are false. Since there is no direct relevance from one part of the two statements to the other the 'if,then' situation would always be false.

Rajdeep Ghosh - 4 years ago

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Actually, that is wrong. Both statements are true. Sine the "if" condition is false, the entire statement is true, no matter what the second part says. See Efren Medallo's solution.

Siva Budaraju - 4 years ago

You didn't define what is 3 or 7, just like you didn't define what is 6, which means you cannot ASSUME that 3 or 7 are numbers. They can be variables as well. So your solution is ambiguous

Cheah Chung Yin - 3 years, 8 months ago
Arad Yaron
May 20, 2017

By definition "If false then true" is true

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