If x and y are positive real numbers, what is the minimum value of
( 2 x + 3 y ) ( x 8 + y 3 ) ?
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why don't you take root 144 as -12 ???
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Since x , y , z is obviously a positive reals, so you can't take -12.
Where did you get 12 from?
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( 6 z ) ( z 2 4 ) Cancel out the z you will get 6 ∗ 2 4 = 1 4 4 = 1 2 .
I used this way but T_T when I did the AM-GM inequality I forgot to divide by 2 so I got the answer 37
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@Mahindra Jain So actually you can add an answer : 37
My also same solution...
Why can't we get the same Ans by multiplying their individual minimum values
By Cauchy Schwarz inequality, this is at least ( 2 × 8 + 3 × 3 ) 2 = 4 9 , and equality can be achieved (e.g. at x = 2 , y = 1 ).
Can you help with the detaiils?
Expanding the expression yields :
2 5 + 6 ∗ x / y + 2 4 ∗ y / x
Now, let z : = x / y , giving :
2 5 + 6 ∗ ( z + 4 / z )
We need to find the value of z which minimizes z + 4 / z .
So, let F ( z ) = z + 4 / z
Looking at an extrema of this function :
F ′ ( z ) = 1 − 4 / z 2 = 0 ⟺ z 2 = 4
Now, we require x , y > 0 ⟹ z > 0
So, take z = 2
By inspection, one checks that F ( z = 2 ) is in fact a minimum and :
F ( z = 2 ) = 4
Hence, we conclude that that the minimum value of the given expression is :
2 5 + 6 ∗ 4 = 4 9
(Note : one should, to be rigorous, argue that z = 2 is indeed attainable by letting x = 2 and y = 1 which are acceptable values for x and y )
Using the Python sympy library: - Take partial derivatives of the given expression wrt x and y.
Solve the resulting pair of equations for x.
Take note of the fact that only one of the resulting solutions is admissible as a positive number.
Substitute the admissible expression for x in terms of y back into the original expression.
(I missed seeing what skill one was supposed to apply until just now!)
AM-GM inequality 2 x + 3 y ≥ 2 2 x 3 y and AM-GM inequality x 8 + y 3 ≥ 2 x ⋅ y 8 ⋅ 3 By multiplying them we obtain that our expression is ≥ 2 ⋅ 2 2 ⋅ 8 ⋅ 3 2 = 4 8
I am also getting 2 solutions with 2 methods. 48 if not expanded and 49 if expanded.
Then how to know which method to use in such cases?
Should I know at what x and y the minimum is 48?
Such solution gives you non-real x and y when you try to solve
2 5 + y 6 x + x 2 4 y = 4 8
y 6 x + x 2 4 y − 2 3 = 0
t = y x
6 t + t 2 4 − 2 3 = 0
6 t 2 − 2 3 t + 2 4 = 0
D = b 2 − 4 a c = 2 3 2 − 4 × 6 × 2 4 = 2 3 2 − 2 4 2 < 0
y x is complex hence x and y are complex
(2x+3y)*(8y+3x) 16+9+6x/y+24yx 25+6(x/y+4y/x) jika x/y=p maka persamaaannya(equality) menjadi 25+6(p+4/p) minimum jika p=2 next 25+24=49
Should be 48. Minimum happens when both the factors are minimum which then multiply to 48
Product of minima of two or more non-negative factors is in general lower or equal than the minimum of product of factors. You get 48 as product of minima but the minimum of the product is in fact 49.
Expanding out the expression: 2 5 + ( y 6 x + x 2 4 y ) = 2 5 + 6 ( x y x 2 + 4 y 2 ) Now using the AM-GM inequality: x 2 + 4 y 2 ≥ 2 x 2 . 4 y 2 = 4 x y ⇒ 2 5 + 6 ( x y x 2 + 4 y 2 ) ≥ 2 5 + 6 ( x y 4 x y ) = 2 5 + 2 4 = 4 9 H e n c e t h e m i n i m u m v a l u e i s 4 9
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Expanding, the expression becomes
1 6 + 9 + 6 ∗ y x + 2 4 ∗ x y = 2 5 + 6 z + z 2 4
where z = y x . Now since z > 0 , by the A.M.-G.M. inequality we have that
2 6 z + z 2 4 ≥ ( 6 z ) ( z 2 4 ) = 1 2
⟹ 6 z + z 2 4 ≥ 2 4 ,
the minimum being achieved when z = 2 . Thus the minimum value of the given expression is 2 5 + 2 4 = 4 9 .