Minimum Value

Algebra Level 2

If x x and y y are positive real numbers, what is the minimum value of

( 2 x + 3 y ) ( 8 x + 3 y ) ? (2x + 3y)\left(\frac{8}{x} + \frac{3}{y} \right) ?

25 25 36 36 49 49 64 64

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8 solutions

Expanding, the expression becomes

16 + 9 + 6 x y + 24 y x = 25 + 6 z + 24 z 16 + 9 + 6*\dfrac{x}{y} + 24*\dfrac{y}{x} = 25 + 6z + \dfrac{24}{z}

where z = x y . z = \dfrac{x}{y}. Now since z > 0 z \gt 0 , by the A.M.-G.M. inequality we have that

6 z + 24 z 2 ( 6 z ) ( 24 z ) = 12 \dfrac{6z + \frac{24}{z}}{2} \ge \sqrt{(6z)(\frac{24}{z})} = 12

6 z + 24 z 24 \Longrightarrow 6z + \dfrac{24}{z} \ge 24 ,

the minimum being achieved when z = 2 z = 2 . Thus the minimum value of the given expression is 25 + 24 = 49 25 + 24 = \boxed{49} .

why don't you take root 144 as -12 ???

Mayank Kunwar - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Since x , y , z x,y,z is obviously a positive reals, so you can't take -12.

Figel Ilham - 6 years, 3 months ago

Where did you get 12 from?

Sarfraz Ahmed Razi - 6 years, 4 months ago

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( 6 z ) ( 24 z ) \sqrt{(6z)(\frac{24}{z})} Cancel out the z z you will get 6 24 = 144 = 12 \sqrt{6*24}=\sqrt{144}=12 .

Marc Vince Casimiro - 6 years, 4 months ago

I used this way but T_T when I did the AM-GM inequality I forgot to divide by 2 so I got the answer 37

Hua Zhi Vee - 4 years, 2 months ago

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@Mahindra Jain So actually you can add an answer : 37

Hua Zhi Vee - 4 years, 2 months ago

My also same solution...

Anirban Das - 3 years, 5 months ago

Why can't we get the same Ans by multiplying their individual minimum values

uday mahajan - 1 year, 2 months ago
Joel Tan
Jan 25, 2015

By Cauchy Schwarz inequality, this is at least ( 2 × 8 + 3 × 3 ) 2 = 49 (\sqrt {2×8}+\sqrt {3×3})^{2}=49 , and equality can be achieved (e.g. at x = 2 , y = 1 x=2, y=1 ).

Can you help with the detaiils?

Anmol Agarwal - 4 years ago
Patrick Bourg
Jan 29, 2015

Expanding the expression yields :

25 + 6 x / y + 24 y / x 25+6*x/y+24*y/x

Now, let z : = x / y z :=x/y , giving :

25 + 6 ( z + 4 / z ) 25+6*(z+4/z)

We need to find the value of z z which minimizes z + 4 / z z+4/z .

So, let F ( z ) = z + 4 / z F(z)=z+4/z

Looking at an extrema of this function :

F ( z ) = 1 4 / z 2 = 0 z 2 = 4 F'(z) = 1-4/z^2 = 0 \iff z^2 = 4

Now, we require x , y > 0 z > 0 x,y > 0 \implies z > 0

So, take z = 2 z = 2

By inspection, one checks that F ( z = 2 ) F(z=2) is in fact a minimum and :

F ( z = 2 ) = 4 F(z=2) = 4

Hence, we conclude that that the minimum value of the given expression is :

25 + 6 4 = 49 25+6*4 = 49

(Note : one should, to be rigorous, argue that z = 2 z = 2 is indeed attainable by letting x = 2 x=2 and y = 1 y=1 which are acceptable values for x x and y y )

Bill Bell
Jan 25, 2015

Using the Python sympy library: - Take partial derivatives of the given expression wrt x and y.

  • Solve the resulting pair of equations for x.

  • Take note of the fact that only one of the resulting solutions is admissible as a positive number.

  • Substitute the admissible expression for x in terms of y back into the original expression.

(I missed seeing what skill one was supposed to apply until just now!)

AM-GM inequality 2 x + 3 y 2 2 x 3 y 2x+3y\geq2\sqrt{2x3y} and AM-GM inequality 8 x + 3 y 2 8 3 x y \frac{8}{x}+\frac{3}{y}\geq 2 \sqrt{ \frac{8\cdot 3}{x\cdot y} } By multiplying them we obtain that our expression is 2 2 2 8 3 2 = 48 \geq 2\cdot 2 \sqrt{2\cdot 8 \cdot 3^2}=48

I am also getting 2 solutions with 2 methods. 48 if not expanded and 49 if expanded.

Gaurav Manwani - 3 years, 11 months ago

Then how to know which method to use in such cases?

Sourav Roy - 1 year, 5 months ago

Should I know at what x and y the minimum is 48?

krish krejia - 11 months, 2 weeks ago

Such solution gives you non-real x x and y y when you try to solve

25 + 6 x y + 24 y x = 48 25 + \dfrac{6x}{y} + \dfrac{24y}{x} = 48

6 x y + 24 y x 23 = 0 \dfrac{6x}{y} + \dfrac{24y}{x} - 23 = 0

t = x y t = \dfrac{x}{y}

6 t + 24 t 23 = 0 6t + \dfrac{24}{t} - 23 = 0

6 t 2 23 t + 24 = 0 6t^{2} - 23t + 24 = 0

D = b 2 4 a c = 2 3 2 4 × 6 × 24 = 2 3 2 2 4 2 < 0 D = b^{2} - 4ac = 23^{2} - 4\times6\times24 = 23^{2} - 24^{2} < 0

x y \dfrac{x}{y} is complex hence x x and y y are complex

Алексей Жаков - 3 years, 7 months ago
Rajab Muzakar
Jan 29, 2015

(2x+3y)*(8y+3x) 16+9+6x/y+24yx 25+6(x/y+4y/x) jika x/y=p maka persamaaannya(equality) menjadi 25+6(p+4/p) minimum jika p=2 next 25+24=49

Burhan Mohamed
Dec 6, 2019

Should be 48. Minimum happens when both the factors are minimum which then multiply to 48

Product of minima of two or more non-negative factors is in general lower or equal than the minimum of product of factors. You get 48 as product of minima but the minimum of the product is in fact 49.

Andrea Palma - 1 year, 5 months ago
Curtis Clement
Feb 20, 2015

Expanding out the expression: 25 + ( 6 x y + 24 y x ) = 25 + 6 ( x 2 + 4 y 2 x y ) 25 + (\frac{6x}{y} + \frac{24y}{x}) = 25 + 6 (\frac{x^2 + 4y^2}{xy}) Now using the AM-GM inequality: x 2 + 4 y 2 2 x 2 . 4 y 2 = 4 x y x^2+4y^2 \geq\ 2\sqrt{x^2. 4y^2} = 4xy \Rightarrow 25 + 6 ( x 2 + 4 y 2 x y ) 25 + 6 ( 4 x y x y ) = 25 + 24 = 49 25 + 6 (\frac{x^2 + 4y^2}{xy}) \geq\ 25 + 6(\frac{4xy}{xy}) = 25 + 24 = 49 H e n c e t h e m i n i m u m v a l u e i s 49 \large Hence \ the \ minimum \ value \ is \ 49

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