Mistakes give rise to Problems- 17

Algebra Level 5

In maths, we use the symbols × \times and \cdot for the same purpose. For example, 5 × 4 = 5 4 as each of these is = 20 \displaystyle \color{#3D99F6}{\left| 5\times 4\right| =\left| 5\cdot 4\right| }\quad \quad \quad\text{as each of these is} = 20


But if you do that in vectors, like a × b = a b \left| \vec{a}\times \vec{b} \right|=\left|\vec{a} \cdot \vec{b} \right| then it's a Big Mistake !!! \color{#D61F06}{\textbf{Big Mistake !!!}}


But for some integer valued magnitudes of a \vec{a} and b \vec{b} in the range 0 a , b 10 0\leq a,b \leq 10 and for angle θ \theta (with some integer value in degrees, 0 θ 18 0 \color{#69047E}{0^\circ \leq \theta \leq 180^\circ} ) between them, the above said false \color{#D61F06}{\text{false}} property is observed to be true \color{#20A900}{\text{true}} .

Find the number of ordered triples ( a , b , θ \color{#3D99F6}{\mathrm{a,b,\theta}} ).


Details and assumptions :-

\bullet a a and b b are the magnitudes of a \vec{a} and b \vec{b} respectively.

\bullet For an angle θ \theta between vectors a \vec{a} and b \overline{b} (Of course it is considered as the angle in range 0 θ 18 0 0\leq \theta \leq 180^\circ ), it's defined as a b = a b cos θ \left|\vec{a}\cdot \vec{b}\right| =\left|a b \cos{\theta} \right| and a × b = a b sin θ \left|\vec{a}\times \vec{b}\right| =\left|ab\sin\theta\right| .


This problem is a part of the set Mistakes Give Rise to Problems!!!


The answer is 4001.

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2 solutions

Aditya Raut
Sep 5, 2014

Here, we have to find the number of ordered triples of integers ( a , b , θ ) (a,b,\theta) such that 0 a , b 10 0\leq a,b\leq 10 , 0 θ 180 0\leq \theta \leq 180 and a × b × cos θ = a × b × sin θ a\times b \times \left|\cos\theta \right| = a\times b \times \left|\sin\theta \right|

This is simply a × b × ( sin θ cos θ ) = 0 a\times b\times \bigl(\left|\sin\theta \right|-\left|\cos\theta \right| \bigr)=0

Now this is true at a = 0 a=0 or b = 0 b=0 or θ = 4 5 or 13 5 \theta = 45^\circ \text{ or } 135^\circ


a = 0 \bullet \quad \quad a=0

( a , b , θ ) = ( 0 , b , θ ) (a,b,\theta )=(0,b,\theta) , b b has 11 11 choices (0 to 10) and θ \theta has 181 181 choices, giving 181 × 11 181\times 11 triples.


b = 0 \bullet \quad \quad b=0

( a , b , θ ) = ( a , 0 , θ ) (a,b,\theta)=(a,0,\theta) again same thing, but now a a has 10 10 choices and θ \theta has 181. (Because ( 0 , 0 , θ ) (0,0,\theta) have been counted in previous case.) This gives 10 × 181 10\times 181 triples.


θ = 4 5 \bullet \quad \quad \theta = 45^\circ or 13 5 135^\circ

( a , b , θ ) (a,b,\theta) , we have 10 10 choices for a a and 10 10 for b b (they are now non-zero), giving 10 × 10 × 2 = 200 10\times 10\times 2=200 triples.

Total triples are 181 × 11 + 181 × 10 + 200 = 181 × 21 + 200 = 4001 181\times 11 +181 \times 10 +200 = 181\times 21 +200 = \boxed{4001}

Lovely Question

Usama Khidir - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Thanks ! I tried to explain in the details, so that the people who don't know vectors can also solve it...(at least try).

Aditya Raut - 6 years, 9 months ago

I took theta only 45 degrees and got the answers wrong.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 9 months ago

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That's sad, that is the reason why this set got popular, many times people miss a single small thing and that makes a big difference...

Aditya Raut - 6 years, 9 months ago

I too have got the right answer in third trial :D... Very nice question

Kïñshük Sïñgh - 6 years, 9 months ago

Even i did that mistake. :/

Keshav Tiwari - 6 years, 9 months ago

didnt consider the zero values ..

Devank Yadav - 6 years, 9 months ago

Great problem @Aditya Raut . Loved solving it :)

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Thanks ! I tried to explain in the details, so that the people who don't know vectors can also solve it...(at least try).

Aditya Raut - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Yes that's really nice of you :)

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 9 months ago

ugh- didn't see 0<. thought 1<

Ashu Dablo - 6 years, 9 months ago

Thought that theta is not defined when either of the vectors is zero.

Led Tasso - 6 years, 8 months ago

Why is it s i n θ |sin \theta| ? I'd always learnt it as s i n θ sin \theta and so it is said here as well.

and here .

Vishnu Bhagyanath - 5 years, 10 months ago

just small change, a × b = a b s i n ( θ ) | a \times b |=a b sin (\theta) and a b = a b c o s ( θ ) |a \cdot b |=a b |cos(\theta)|

This is because dot product gives a scalar, the |...| means absolute value but

cross product gives a vector so |...| means the magnitude of the vector.

Ajinkya Shivashankar - 4 years, 6 months ago

@Aditya Raut Why is this true though? Why are there 4001. Is there a reason to this?

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 11 months ago

The solution is to find the number N N of ordered integral triplets ( a , b , θ ) (a, b, \theta) that satisfy a b cos θ = a b sin θ |ab \cos{\theta}|=|ab \sin{\theta} | .

There are two cases.

Case 1 : when a b cos θ = a b sin θ = 0 |ab \cos{\theta}|=|ab \sin{\theta} | = 0 ; this happens when a = 0 a=0 or b = 0 b=0 . There are a total of 21 such cases as follows:

( a , b ) = ( 0 , 0 ) , ( 0 , 1 ) , ( 0 , 2 ) , ( 0 , 3 ) , ( 0 , 4 ) , ( 0 , 5 ) , ( 0 , 6 ) , ( 0 , 7 ) , ( 0 , 8 ) , ( 0 , 9 ) , ( 0 , 10 ) , (a,b) = (0,0), (0,1), (0,2), (0,3), (0,4), (0,5), (0,6), (0,7), (0,8), (0,9), (0,10),

( 1 , 0 ) , ( 2 , 0 ) , ( 3 , 0 ) , ( 4 , 0 ) , ( 5 , 0 ) , ( 6 , 0 ) , ( 7 , 0 ) , ( 8 , 0 ) , ( 9 , 0 ) , ( 10 , 0 ) \quad \quad \quad \space (1,0), (2,0), (3,0), (4,0), (5,0), (6,0), (7,0), (8,0), (9,0), (10,0)

For each case of a , b = 0 a,b=0 , θ \theta can be 0 , 1 , 2 . . . 0^\circ, 1^\circ, 2^\circ ... or 18 0 180^\circ , a total of 181 181 cases.

Therefore the number of ordered triplets in Case 1:

N 1 = 21 × 181 = 3801 N_1 = 21 \times 181 = 3801

Case 2 : when a b cos θ = a b sin θ 0 |ab \cos{\theta}|=|ab \sin{\theta} | \ne 0 ; then:

a b cos θ = a b sin θ = sin θ tan θ = 1 tan θ = ± 1 θ = 4 5 o , 13 5 o |ab \cos{\theta}|=|ab \sin{\theta} | =|\sin{\theta} | \quad \Rightarrow |\tan{\theta} | = | 1 | \quad \Rightarrow \tan{\theta} = \pm 1 \quad \Rightarrow \theta = 45^o, 135^o

It can be seen that, in this case, a a can be any of 1 , 2 , 3...10 1, 2, 3 ... 10 for every case of b = 1 , 2 , 3...10 b = 1, 2, 3 ... 10 .

Therefore the number of ordered triplets in Case 2:

N 2 = 10 × 10 × 2 = 200 N_2 = 10 \times 10 \times 2 = 200

Therefore, N = N 1 + N 2 = 3801 + 200 = 4001 N = N_1 + N_2 = 3801 + 200 = \boxed{4001}

nice solution

Lakshay Sethi - 6 years, 9 months ago

minor change:

a b = a b c o s ( θ ) |a \cdot b|=|a b cos(\theta)| but a × b = a b s i n ( θ ) |a \times b|=a b sin(\theta) that is without the |...|

this is because (\ a \times b ) is a vector. however a × b = a b s i n ( θ ) ||a \times b||=|a b sin(\theta)| so this does not affect the rest of the solution

Ajinkya Shivashankar - 4 years, 6 months ago

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But a b sin θ ab\sin \theta can be negative. We only want the absolute value a b sin θ |ab\sin \theta| .

You need to put a backslash "\" before \sin \theta sin θ \sin \theta and \cos \theta cos θ \cos \theta because they are functions. Note that without the backslash s i n sin and c o s cos are in i t a l i c italic which are for valuables. Also note that the spacing between the function and argument are automatic using the backslash unlike s i n θ sin \theta and c o s θ cos \theta .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 6 months ago

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