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54841 = 317 × 173. \large 54841 = 317 \times 173. 54841, whose prime factor decomposition is given above, can be written as the sum of two perfect squares in two different ways:

54841 = a 2 + b 2 = c 2 + d 2 , 54841 = a^2 + b^2 = c^2 + d^2,

where a , b , c a,b,c and d d are distinct positive integers. Find the sum a + b + c + d a+b+c+d .

Hint : 317 = 196 + 121 317 = 196 + 121 , and 173 = 169 + 4 173 = 169 + 4 .


The answer is 650.

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2 solutions

Arjen Vreugdenhil
May 17, 2016

Note that ( u 2 + v 2 ) ( x 2 + y 2 ) = ( u x ± v y ) 2 + ( v x u y ) 2 . (u^2 + v^2)(x^2 + y^2) = (ux \pm vy)^2 + (vx \mp uy)^2. If the two factors on the left are prime numbers (necessarily of the form 4 n + 1 4n+1 ) then this is a unique decomposition.

Here u = 14 u = 14 , v = 11 v = 11 , x = 13 x = 13 , y = 2 y = 2 . (This assignment gives positive values.)

Thus a + b + c + d = ( u x + v y ) + ( v x u y ) + ( u x v y ) + ( v x u y ) = 2 ( u + v ) x = 2 ( 14 + 11 ) 13 = 650 . a + b + c + d = (ux + vy) + (vx - uy) + (ux - vy) + (vx - uy) = 2(u+v)x = 2\cdot (14 + 11)\cdot 13 = \boxed{650}.

Mark Hennings
May 17, 2016

Working in the Gaussian integers we have 54841 = 317 × 173 = ( 196 + 121 ) ( 169 + 4 ) = ( 14 + 11 i ) ( 14 11 i ) ( 13 + 2 i ) ( 13 2 i ) 54841 \; = \; 317 \times 173 \; = \; (196 + 121)(169 + 4) \; = \; (14 + 11i)(14 - 11i)(13+2i)(13-2i) Since these last four numbers are prime in the Gaussian integers, if we want to write 54841 = X 2 + Y 2 = ( X + i Y ) ( X i Y ) 54841 = X^2 + Y^2 = (X + iY)(X - iY) then (to within association), the possible values of X + i Y X + iY are ( 14 + 11 i ) ( 13 + 2 i ) = 160 + 171 i ( 14 + 11 i ) ( 13 2 i ) = 204 + 115 i (14 + 11i)(13 + 2i) \; =\; 160 + 171i \qquad \qquad (14 + 11i)(13 - 2i) \; = \; 204 + 115i Thus we have 54841 = 16 0 2 + 17 1 2 = 20 4 2 + 11 5 2 54841 \,=\, 160^2 + 171^2 \,=\, 204^2 + 115^2 , making the answer 650 \boxed{650} .

Nice use of Gaussian Algebra. It implies that if one sees something of the form ( X 2 + Y 2 ) \left(X^{2}+Y^{2}\right) one should be tempted to think of the form from which it could come which is ( X + i Y ) ( X i Y ) \left(X+iY\right)\left(X-iY\right) .

Nishant Sharma - 5 years ago

I did it similarly, except I used the notation 54841 = ( 14 ± 11 i ) ( 13 + 2 i ) 2 . 54841= |(14\pm11i)(13+2i)|^2.

Peter Byers - 5 years ago

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