Moving dots

Calculus Level 3

A moving dot P P departs from O O at an initial speed of 6 m/s 6\ \mbox{m/s} in the east direction, accelerating at 2 m /s 2 2\ \mbox{m}\mbox{/s}^2 . Two seconds after P P 's departure, dot Q Q departs from O O to chase down P P at a constant speed of k m/s k\ \mbox{m/s} in the east direction. What is the minimum speed, k k , required for Q Q to eventually catch up to P P ?


The answer is 18.

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5 solutions

Cees Otto
Dec 27, 2013

dot P: a=2, v=2t+6, s=t^2 +6t (simple integration) dot Q: v=k, s=k(t-2) because of delayed start. Put the s formulas equal which leads to a quadratic. Minimum occurs when discriminant = 0 therefore k = 2 (impossible of course) or k = 18 (ANSWER)

First we want to determine the distance that each dot has travelled as a function of time. We can do this by integrating each dot's velocity function over time: d P = ( v 0 , P + 2 t ) d t = t v 0 , P + t 2 + 0 d_P = \int (v_{0,P}+2t)dt=tv_{0,P}+t^2+0 and d Q = k d t = k ( t 2 ) d_Q = \int kdt=k(t-2) . What we are interested in is occasions when these two distances are equal, so we constrain them to be equal: d P = d Q ; t v 0 , P + t 2 = k ( t 2 ) d_P = d_Q; tv_{0,P}+t^2 = k(t-2) . From this, we can say what speed Q has to travel at to reach P at any time or we can solve for the time taken for Q to reach P at any speed.

What the question has asked us for is the minimum speed at which Q can travel and still catch P. If Q travels any slower it should never catch P and if Q travels any faster will pass P and then be passed by P again later. This is a simple minimization problem, so we want to find the k k value(s) for which d k / d t dk/dt is 0 (where k bottoms out with respect to t); this is the point at which the initial speed is minimized.

This proves to be a challenging route to take, so we can simply solve the quadratic equation for the point at which both roots (intersections of the two equations) are the same using the quadratic formula: t = b + / b 2 4 a c 2 a = ( 6 + k ) + / ( 6 + k ) 2 4 ( 2 k ) 2 t=\frac{-b+/-\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a} = \frac{-(-6+k)+/-\sqrt{(-6+k)^2-4(2k)}}{2} . The single solution we want is found when the term under the square root (the discriminant) is 0 0 , therefore we want to solve for the value of k k that gives a discriminant of 0 0 . When we try to solve for this we get another quadratic equation in terms of k k instead of t t . We need to solve this using the same quadratic formula. When we plug in the values we get two roots, k = 2 k=2 and k = 18 k=18 , for which there is only one value of t t at which the two dots meet. The first root, k = 2 k=2 , corresponds to the two dots only meeting at t = 2 t=-2 (before the first dot left) and is not interesting to us. The other value, k = 18 k=18 , corresponds to the two dots only meeting at t = 6 t=6 seconds which makes sense and can be checked by substituting back into the original distance equality.

Nick McGregor - 7 years, 5 months ago
Sundar R
Feb 10, 2014

Essentially, distance covered by P = u t + 1/2 a t^2 where u = 6 , a = 2 = 6t + t^2 distance covered by Q = k (t-2)

So at the time of catching up, t^2+6t = k(t-2)

Since we would like to minimalize k, we have to minimalize the ratio (t^2 + 6t ) / (t-2)

Let f(t) = (t^2+6t) / (t-2)

taking derivatives, f'(t) = ((t-2)(2t+6) - (t^2+6t)(1)) / (t-2)^2

Since all we need is the numerator, we set it to 0,

i.e (2t^2-4t + 6t -12) - t^2 - 6t = 0

hence t^2 - 4t -12 = 0

yielding t=6 or t=-2

Since t=-2 is not possible, t = 6 is the only solution.

Now, we substitute back the value of t=6 in t^2+6t = k(t-2) to get

36 + 36 = 4*k

giving k = 72/4 = 18 m/s

did same as u

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 10 months ago
Soaham Ganguly
Jan 17, 2014

The distance as a function of time for dot P, say s(P) = 6t + t^2 (from s = ut + 1/2 at^2)

And as dot Q starts 2 seconds later with a constant velocity, s(Q) = k (t-2)

Obviously, Q will catch P when s(Q) = s(P)

Equating the above we obtain the quadratic equation

t^2 + (6-k)t + 2k = 0

For the above scenario to happen, the equation should have at least one real solution. And thus it's discriminant must be greater or equal to ZERO.

thus,

(6-k)^2 - 8k >= 0

or, k = 2 or 18.

While, k=2 is certainly a meaningless result, we accept k=18 as the answer!

Aditya Joshi
Jan 12, 2014

The question asks us when Q Q will catch up with P P . This means that the displacement s s should be constant at some point of time.

For the first dot P P , let us calculate the displacement.

Using the second law of motion,

s = u p t + 1 2 a p t 2 s = u_p t + \dfrac{1}{2} a_p t^{2} where u p u_p denotes the initial velocity of the dot P P and a p a_p denotes its acceleration.

Plugging in the known values we get, s = 6 t + t 2 s = 6t + t^{2}

Now for the second object, the displacement is s = u q ( t 2 ) + 1 2 a q ( t 2 ) 2 s = u_q (t-2) + \dfrac{1}{2} a_q (t-2)^{2}

a q = 0 a_q = 0 since the object Q Q travels at constant speed. Thus, we get

s = u q ( t 2 ) s = u_q (t - 2) for the dot Q Q

Since the displacement is equal, we can equate the two equations.

u q ( t 2 ) = 6 t + t 2 u_q (t - 2) = 6t + t^2 or

u q = 6 t + t 2 t 2 u_q = \dfrac{6t + t^{2}}{t - 2}

Thus, we have the initial velocity of the Q Q object as a function of t t . We want to minimize u q u_q

Finding the minimum by taking the first two derivatives we get the minimum value of u q = 18 u_q = 18 at t = 6 t = 6

Thus, the answer is 18 \boxed{18}

Mukul Dhiman
Jan 7, 2014

Displacement of P in 2 sec from O would be:

using, s=ut + 0.5 a t 2 {t^2} would be 16m

Now assuming P and Q meets at point Xm from O, and time taken to do so would be same.

For P:

X-16 = 10 t + t 2 {t^2} ..............(1)

where initial velocity after 2 sec would be 10m/s using v = u+at

For Q:

k = X/t also X= kt.............(2)

Using equation 1 and 2

we form

(kt - 16) = 10t + t 2 {t^2}

k = 10 + t + 16 / t ........................(3)

Differentiating k wrt t we get

d k d t \frac{dk}{dt} = 1 - 16 / t 2 {t^2} = 0

we get t = 4

On double differentiation for max/min, we get min of k at t=4.

Hence substituting t=4 in equation 3

We get k = 18 m / s \boxed{k=18m/s}

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