Nagel Angle Ankle II

Geometry Level 4

Let Δ \Delta denote the set of all triangles, such that:

  • One of the three points A A (green) on the circumference of the circumcircle is fixed;
  • The inradius is 3 3 , and the circumradius is 8 8 .

An example of one such triangle is illustrated as shown below:

Find the locus of the Nagel point X 8 \operatorname{X}_8 of all such triangles. If its arc length (not repeated) can be expressed as D π D\pi , where D D is a positive real-valued constant, input D D as your answer.


Bonus. What if suppose we solve this problem, but for the fixed incenter X 1 \operatorname{X}_1 ?


The answer is 4.0000000000.

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1 solution

Mark Hennings
May 10, 2021

Standard results give the distances between the outcentre O O of a triangle and its incentre I I and Nagel point N a Na as: O I = R ( R 2 r ) O N a = 4 Δ O I 2 a b c = 4 R Δ ( R 2 r ) a b c OI \; = \; \sqrt{R(R-2r)} \hspace{2cm} ONa \; = \; \frac{4\Delta OI^2}{abc} \; = \; \frac{4R\Delta(R-2r)}{abc} where R , r R,r are the outradius and inradius, and Δ \Delta is the area. Since R = a b c 4 Δ R \; = \; \frac{abc}{4\Delta} we deduce that O N a = R 2 r ONa \; = \; R-2r In this case we deduce that O N a = 8 2 × 3 = 2 ONa = 8 - 2\times3=2 .

For a fixed vertex A A and given vertex B B on a circle of radius 8 8 , there are two possible triangles A B C ABC with inradius 3 3 and outradius 8 8 , one being the mirror image of the other in the perpendicular bisector of A B AB . Thus there are two candidates for the Nagel point, and they are mirror images of the other in the same line. As B B varies, the two candidate Nagel points provide a double cover of the circle with centre O O and radius 2 2 , which has perimeter 4 π 4\pi , making the answer 4 \boxed{4} .


Clearly we have O I = 4 OI = 4 in this case, so the locus of the incentre is a circle of radius 4 4 , centre O O , and hence has perimeter 8 π 8\pi .

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