Natural Log of a Negative Number

Geometry Level 3

ln ( 3 ) = ln ( A ) + i ( 2 k + 1 ) B \large \ln(-3) = \ln (A) + i(2k+1)B

Positive real numbers A A and B B satisfy the equation above, where k k is an integer.

If S 1 S_1 is the slope of the line joining the origin ( 0 , 0 ) (0,0) and the point ( A , B ) (A,B) , and S 2 S_2 is the area of ellipse x 2 A 2 + y 2 B 2 = 1 \dfrac {x^2}{A^2} + \dfrac {y^2}{B^2} = 1 , find 1000 S 1 + 100 S 2 \lfloor 1000S_1\rfloor + \lfloor 100S_2 \rfloor .

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The answer is 4007.

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3 solutions

Gandoff Tan
Nov 11, 2019

ln ( 3 ) = ln ( 3 × 1 ) = ln ( 3 ) + ln ( 1 ) = ln ( 3 ) + ln ( e i ( 2 k + 1 ) π ) = ln ( 3 ) + i ( 2 k + 1 ) π ln ( A ) + i ( 2 k + 1 ) B ( A , B ) = ( 3 , π ) \begin{aligned} \ln(-3)&=\ln(3\times-1)\\ &=\ln(3)+\ln(-1)\\ &=\ln(3)+\ln(e^{i(2k+1)\pi})\\ &=\ln(3)+i(2k+1)\pi\\ &\Leftrightarrow\ln(A)+i(2k+1)B\\ &\Rightarrow (A,B)=(3,\pi) \end{aligned}

1000 S 1 + 100 S 2 = 1000 ( π 3 ) + 100 π ( 3 ) ( π ) = 1000 3 π + 300 π 2 = 1047.1 + 2960.8 = 1047 + 2960 = 4007 \begin{aligned} ⌊1000S_1⌋+⌊100S_2⌋&=\left⌊1000\left(\frac\pi3\right)\right⌋+⌊100\pi(3)(\pi)⌋\\ &=\left⌊\frac{1000}{3}\pi\right⌋+\left⌊300\pi^2\right⌋\\ &=⌊1047.1\dots⌋+⌊2960.8\dots⌋\\ &=1047+2960\\ &=\boxed{4007} \end{aligned}

Chew-Seong Cheong
Jul 20, 2019

z = ln ( 3 ) = ln ( 3 ) + ln ( 1 ) By Euler’s formula: e i θ = cos θ + i sin θ = ln ( 3 ) + ln ( e ( 2 k + 1 ) i π ) where k is an integer. = ln ( 3 ) + i ( 2 k + 1 ) π \begin{aligned} z & = \ln (-3) = \ln (3) + \ln({\color{#3D99F6}-1}) & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{By Euler's formula: }e^{i \theta} = \cos \theta + i\sin \theta \\ & = \ln (3) + \ln \left(\color{#3D99F6} e^{(2k+1)i \pi}\right) & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{where }k \text{ is an integer.} \\ & = \ln (3) + i (2k+1)\pi \end{aligned}

Therefore A = 3 A=3 and B = π B=\pi . Then S 1 = π 3 1.047197551 S_1 = \dfrac \pi 3 \approx 1.047197551 and S 2 = π ( 3 ) ( π ) 29.6088132 S_2 = \pi (3)(\pi) \approx 29.6088132 and 1000 S 1 + 100 S 2 = 1047 + 2960 = 4007 \lfloor 1000S_1 \rfloor + \lfloor 100S_2 \rfloor = 1047+2960 = \boxed {4007} .


Reference: Euler's formula

@Karan Chatrath , the question wording does not have to be so complicated. We don't have to mention z z , X X and Y Y . I have amended for you.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 1 year, 10 months ago

Yes, I see the changes. I appreciate the feedback. Thank you very much.

Karan Chatrath - 1 year, 10 months ago
Karan Chatrath
Jul 20, 2019

Main steps of the problem: z = ln ( 3 ) z = \ln(-3) z = ln ( 3 ) + ln ( 1 ) z = \ln(3) + \ln(-1) Since i 2 = 1 i^2 = -1 z = ln ( 3 ) + ln ( i 2 ) z = \ln(3) + \ln(i^2) Also, i 2 = e ( 2 k + 1 ) π i^2 = e^{(2k+1)\pi} , which implies: ln ( i 2 ) = ( 2 k + 1 ) π \ln(i^2) = (2k+1)\pi , where k k belongs to the set of integers. This leads to: z = ln ( 3 ) + ( 2 k + 1 ) π z = \ln(3) + (2k+1)\pi

Which implies A = 3 A=3 and B = π B = \pi

From here the answer can be found by computing: S 1 = B A S_1 = \frac{B}{A} S 2 = π A B S_2 = \pi AB

The Slope of the line S 1 = B A = 1.047197 S_1 = \frac{B}{A} = 1.047197

The area of the ellipse is S 2 = π A B = 29.6088 S_2 = \pi AB = 29.6088

From here: X = 1000 S 1 = 1047.97 X = 1000S_1 = 1047.97 and Y = 100 S 2 = 2960.88 Y = 100S_2 = 2960.88

Finally, X + Y = 4007 \boxed{\lfloor X \rfloor + \lfloor Y \rfloor = 4007}

You've shown that z = ln ( 3 ) + ( 2 q + 1 ) π z = \ln(3) + (2q+1) \pi for all integers q q . This does not imply anything about the value of k k in the original statement of the question.

D G - 1 year, 10 months ago

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