x is selected from the set of the first 1 0 0 positive integers. Find the probability that it satisfies the inequality: x + x 1 0 0 > 5 0 If the probability is of the form b a , where a and b are coprime integers, find the value of a + b .
A natural number
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how 55 solutions whereas the inequality is identity in this particular case?
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look at my solution ....if there is any problem ,reply me
how can u multiply "x" on rhs ...it's an variable ...we dont it affect the inequality or not?????
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Say that x+2>5 we can have x^2+2x>5x,
on the left, x>3
On the right, x>3 as well,
You are allowed to multiply by variables when as long as you multiple both sides by that variable. If you have any further questions, I'd be more than happy to answer them for you.
It will not change the inequality as x is positive .
a > b ⟹ k a > k b ∀ k > 0 .
Here, x ∈ N and so x > 0 .
your solution is correct. i was almost there....
before answer learn how to solve an quadratic inequality >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t54ccHYVhoo
haha it's not mathematical solution :D you forget that when you put any number less than or equal to two it works :) i have a proof and the exact solution is ( "square root 21" / 10 ) .. all people solved it wrong
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You do understand the limitation on the problem that this is only defined over the first 100 natural numbers right?
Your question is correct but your answer is wrong.... First hundred natural numbers are 0 to 99.....in that case our expected numbers belong to {1,2 and 48 to 99}.... Anyways I did it assuming you will consider it as 1 to 100
0 is not acceptable,as 100/0 is invalid
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Ha vai Samyak aap sahi bole hai, and for that reason, we will ignore zero and our total number in sample space comes as = 54 as the set is { 1,2 and 48 to 99}
The term 'natural number' is ambiguous inasmuch as it may include zero, or not. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_number.
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Thanks for pointing out the ambiguity. I have updated the question to ask for "100 positive integers".
Those who previously answered 77 (from 1 0 0 5 4 = 5 0 2 7 ) have been marked correct.
Hi sir, please go through the full article... It's still under ambiguity to consider zero as a natural number....it is mentioning possibly zero but in other articles, what I have studied so far, zero is a natural number...
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Thank you for your response. (I don't see where we could be in disagreement.) Best regards.
I agree with the above :/
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Sorry David as I didn't get you... Above means are you agreeing with me or comments on my post :)
x+100/x>50 :::> x^2-50x+100>0 since the quadratic equation x^2-50x+100=0 has two roots 2.087 and 47.91 and the coefficient of x^2 is positive.Therefore it will satisfy the condition only when x is less than2.087 or greater than 47.91 .And the first natural numbers which satisfy it are {1,2,48,49,50,51,51,.........,99,100}. Therefore probability will be 55/100=11/20. Therefore a+b=11+20=31.
I think its the proper way...
Without using the Python sympy library I would have made the mistake of missing the contributions of probabilistic mass for the low values of x .
>>> solve univariate inequality(x+100./x>50,x)
Or(x <= 2.0871215252208, x > 47.9128784747792)
There are 55 x-values in this set and each contributes 0.01 of probability. Hence the result.
Since I can never trust my manipulations I also did a quick Monte-Carlo as a check:
>>> count = 0
>>> for i in range ( 1000000 ) :
... r = randint ( 1, 100 )
... count += ( ( r + 100. / r ) > 50 )
...
>>> count
549730
>>> 549730./1000000
0.54973
Pretty close agreement.
P = P r ( x + x 1 0 0 > 5 0 ; x ∈ { 1 , 2 , . . . , 1 0 0 } ) = N T O T N O K = 1 0 0 N O K ;
x + x 1 0 0 > 5 0 , ⇒ x 2 − 5 0 x + 1 0 0 > 0 ;
x 1 , 2 = 2 5 ± 5 2 5 , x 1 ≈ 2 . 0 8 7 , x 2 ≈ 4 7 . 9 1 3
The set of solutions is:
{ x < x 1 } ∪ { x > x 2 } ∪ { x ∈ { 1 , 2 , . . . , 1 0 0 } } ,
{ x ≤ 2 } ∪ { x ≥ 4 8 } ∪ { x ∈ { 1 , 2 , . . . , 1 0 0 } } ,
x ∈ { 1 , 2 } ∪ { 4 8 , 4 9 , . . . , 1 0 0 } ,
N O K = 2 + 5 3 = 5 5
P = 1 0 0 5 5 = 2 0 1 1 = b a
a + b = 1 1 + 2 0 = 3 1
The first 100 natural numbers are 1-100.
Starting from 1, we can substitute each value in the inequality. (Trust me, won't take long to find a pattern)
1 + 100/1 = 101
2 + 100/2 = 52
3 + 100/3 = 36.33...
For values 3 and after, the inequality does not hold. Until, obviously x has a value nearby 50. For 50 and all values 50-100, the inequality will obviously hold.
49 + 100/49 = 49 + 2.xyz = 51.xyz
48 + 100/48 = 48 + 2.jkl = 50.jkl
47 + 100/47 = 47 + 2.abc = 49.abc
Thus, for 45 values from 3-47, the inequality doesn't hold.
The remaining probability is 55/100 = 11/20 a + b = 31.
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Let`s see that x + x 1 0 0 > 5 0 ⟹ x 2 + 1 0 0 > 5 0 x now we can rewrite the equation as x 2 − 5 0 x > − 1 0 0 ⟹ x ( x − 5 0 ) > − 1 0 0 .
Now, is important to know that the first 1 0 0 natural numbers are 1 , 2 , 3 , . . . , 1 0 0 .
See, that the values that satisfy the equation x ( x − 5 0 ) > − 1 0 0 are x ≥ 4 8 and x = 1 , 2 .
So, we have a total of 5 5 solutions in a total of 1 0 0 numbers; so the probability is 1 0 0 5 5 = 2 0 1 1 = b a so, clearly, a + b = 3 1 .