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If a + b = 25 4 a+b=\dfrac{25}{4} and ( 1 + a ) ( 1 + b ) = 15 2 (1+\sqrt{a})(1+\sqrt{b})=\dfrac{15}{2} , find the value of a b ab .


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The answer is 9.

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Answer is 9 9 .

Appying AM-GM inequality, we have: a b a + b 2 = 25 8 \sqrt{ab}\le\dfrac{a+b}{2}=\dfrac{25}{8}

Since ( 1 + a ) ( 1 + b ) = 15 2 (1+\sqrt{a})(1+\sqrt{b})=\dfrac{15}{2} , we have 1 + a + b + a b = 15 2 1+\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}+\sqrt{ab}=\dfrac{15}{2}

Or a + b = 13 2 a b ( 1 ) \sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}=\dfrac{13}{2}-\sqrt{ab}\qquad(1) .

Since a + b = 25 4 a+b=\dfrac{25}{4} , we get ( a + b ) 2 2 a b = 25 4 ( 2 ) \left(\sqrt{a}+\sqrt{b}\right)^2-2\sqrt{ab}=\dfrac{25}{4}\qquad(2) .

From ( 1 ) (1) and ( 2 ) (2) , we get: ( 13 2 a b ) 2 2 a b = 25 4 \left(\dfrac{13}{2}-\sqrt{ab}\right)^2-2\sqrt{ab}=\dfrac{25}{4}

a b 15 a b + 36 = 0 \Leftrightarrow ab-15\sqrt{ab}+36=0

( a b 3 ) ( a b 12 ) = 0 \Leftrightarrow (\sqrt{ab}-3)(\sqrt{ab}-12)=0

a b = 3 \Leftrightarrow \sqrt{ab}=3 , since a b 25 8 \sqrt{ab}\le\dfrac{25}{8}

Thus, a b = 9 ab=\boxed{9} .

It seems like you started off by already assuming a , b a,b are real, but what if they are not? Would 144 144 then be a valid solution as well?

Xuming Liang - 5 years, 10 months ago

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Because for non-real number z z , z \sqrt{z} is undefined so we must have a , b a, b is real.

Khang Nguyen Thanh - 5 years, 10 months ago

Could you give details about inequality of arithmetic means and geometric means (I guessed this is AM-GM). And how could you get ( 2 ) (2) ?

Adam Phúc Nguyễn - 5 years, 10 months ago

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You can solve this without A-G, from (1) you can see that ( a b ) 1 2 < 13 2 (ab)^{\frac{1}{2}}<\frac{13}{2} since left side is positive, so you can throw other solution this way too...

Вук Радовић - 5 years, 9 months ago

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