Negative Digits

Digits are usually numbers from 0 to some n n . But they may also be negative. Below are numbers in base 3 with digits + 1 +1 , represented by the symbol + + , zero, and 1 -1 , represented by a - .

Write the number 2018 in this system.

Which of the following templates, where a dot may stand for any digit, fits your representation of 2018?

A B C D E F

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2 solutions

Marta Reece
Jul 9, 2018

2018 = + 0 + 0 + 2018=+\text{ } 0 - +\text{ } 0 - + -

You can obtain this from usual representation of 2018 in base 3 3 , which is 2202202 2202202 .

Start from the right and replace 2 2 with its representation in the " + +- " system, that is + +- .

That will give you - at that location and + 1 +1 , that is + + , to carry over.

Every time you get 2 2 after carrying over, replace it again with + +- in the same way.

Every time you get 3 3 , replace it with its representation in the system, that is + 0 +\text{ }0 .

Stephen Mellor
Jul 25, 2018

First we get the placeholder powers of 3 to show the value of each symbol in each location which are 2187 , 729 , 243 , 81 , 27 , 9 , 3 , 1 2187,729,243,81,27,9,3,1 .

It is clear that we need the 2187 to be positive or 2018 is unobtainable using the remaining numbers.

We now need -169. A 0 for the 729 is the only way to keep us close enough using the remaining numbers.

Continuing on this way, we get 2018 = +0-+0-+-, which matches with D

  1. Calculate 2018+2187+729+243+81+27+27+9+3+1.
  2. Write it in base 3 (21201202)
  3. 21201202-(2187+729+243+81+27+27+9+3+1)=+0+-0+-+
EDIT: Now i see that it isn't correct (but still matches with D), any thought why?

Piotr Szewczyk - 2 years, 10 months ago

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You need to invert all of the digits except the first (e.g. + goes to -, 0 goes to 0, - goes to +) although I'm not sure why

Stephen Mellor - 2 years, 10 months ago

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