Negative Logarithms?

Algebra Level 3

If you take the logarithm of a negative number, you will get a complex number (I will not give you the proof - that is for you to figure out). But what is even more mind-boggling is that you will get an infinite number of complex numbers.

For example, if we were to evaluate log 2 ( 8 ) \log_2(-8) we could get the following numbers: 3 + 4.53236 i , 3 + 40.79124 i , 3 67.98540 i , . . . \displaystyle 3 + 4.53236i, 3 + 40.79124i, 3 - 67.98540i, ...

Let log 2 ( 1024 ) = a + b i \log_2(-1024) = a + bi where a a and b b are real numbers and b |b| is minimized. There are two solutions a + b i a + bi that satisfy these requirements. What is the product of these two solutions, rounded to three decimal places?


The answer is 120.542.

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Chew-Seong Cheong
Dec 16, 2020

log 2 ( 1024 ) = ln ( 2 10 ) ln 2 Convert base 2 to base e = ln ( 2 10 ( 1 ) ) ln 2 By Euler’s formula: e i θ = cos θ + i sin θ = ln ( 2 10 e ± i π ) ln 2 Note that log ( a b ) = log a + log b = 10 ln 2 + ln e ± i π ln 2 = 10 ± π ln 2 i \begin{aligned} \log_2 (-1024) & = \frac {\ln (-2^{10})}{\ln 2} & \small \blue{\text{Convert base 2 to base }e} \\ & = \frac {\ln (2^{10}\blue{(-1)})}{\ln 2} & \small \blue{\text{By Euler's formula: }e^{i\theta} = \cos \theta + i \sin \theta} \\ & = \frac {\ln (2^{10}\blue{e^{\pm i\pi}})}{\ln 2} & \small \blue{\text{Note that }\log(ab) = \log a + \log b} \\ & = \frac {10 \ln 2 + \ln e^{\pm i \pi}}{\ln 2} \\ & = 10 \pm \frac \pi{\ln 2}i \end{aligned}

Then ( 10 + π ln 2 i ) ( 10 π ln 2 i ) = 1 0 2 + ( π ln 2 ) 2 120.542 \left(10+\dfrac \pi{\ln 2}i \right)\left(10-\dfrac \pi{\ln 2}i \right) = 10^2 + \left(\dfrac \pi{\ln 2} \right)^2 \approx \boxed{120.542} .


Reference: Euler's formula

Euler's formula tells us that e ( 2 k 1 ) π i = 1 e^{(2k - 1)\pi i} = -1 for any integer k k . From this, if we take the natural logarithm of both sides, we get ln ( 1 ) = ( 2 k 1 ) π i \ln(-1) = (2k - 1)\pi i . We can get the general form ln ( n ) \ln(-n) using the property ln ( a b ) = ln ( a ) + ln ( b ) \ln(ab) = \ln(a) + \ln(b) . Since ln ( n ) = ln ( n 1 ) = ln ( n ) + ln ( 1 ) \ln(-n) = \ln(n * -1) = \ln(n) + \ln(-1) , we conclude that ln ( n ) = ln ( n ) + ( 2 k 1 ) π i \ln(-n) = \ln(n) + (2k - 1)\pi i . Dividing all sides by ln ( 2 ) \ln(2) gives us the formula log 2 ( n ) = log 2 ( n ) + ( 2 k 1 ) π ln ( 2 ) i \log_2(-n) = \log_2(n) + \frac{(2k - 1)\pi}{\ln(2)} i .

Thus, the two solutions are 10 + π ln ( 2 ) i 10 + \frac{\pi}{\ln(2)}i and 10 π ln ( 2 ) i 10 - \frac{\pi}{\ln(2)}i and their product is ( 10 + π ln ( 2 ) i ) ( 10 π ln ( 2 ) i ) = 100 + π 2 ln 2 ( 2 ) = 120.542 (10 + \frac{\pi}{\ln(2)}i)(10 - \frac{\pi}{\ln(2)}i) = 100 + \frac{\pi^2}{\ln^2(2)}= \boxed{120.542}

@Alexander McDowell , the first statement "If you take the logarithm of a negative number, you will get an i m a g i n a r y \red{\rm imaginary} number" is incorrect. It should be " c o m p l e x \blue{\rm complex} number". Imaginary numbers don't have the real part.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 months, 3 weeks ago

It has been fixed

Alexander McDowell - 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Dwaipayan Shikari
Dec 16, 2020

log 2 ( 1024 ) = log 2 ( 1024 ) + log 2 ( 1 ) \log_2 (-1024) = \log_2 (1024) + \log_2 (-1) = 10 + log ( 1 ) log ( 2 ) = 10 + log ( e ± π i ) log ( 2 ) = 10+ \frac{\log(-1)}{\log(2)} = 10+\frac{\log(e^{±πi})}{\log(2)} Two solutions are y 1 = 10 + π i log ( 2 ) , y 2 = 10 π i log ( 2 ) y_1 =10 + \frac{πi}{\log(2)} ,y_2 = 10-\frac{πi}{\log(2)} y 1 . y 2 = 1 0 2 + π 2 log 2 ( 2 ) = 120.5422 y_1 .y_2 = 10^2 +\frac{π^2}{\log^2( 2)} = \color{#20A900} \boxed{120.5422}

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