Nested Triangles

Geometry Level 3

In the diagram, A C B \angle ACB , A E D \angle AED , and B D C \angle BDC are right angles, C D = 60 CD = 60 , and the area of A B C \triangle ABC is 3750 3750 .

Find the perimeter of C D E \triangle CDE .


The answer is 144.

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We note that A B C \triangle ABC , B C D \triangle BCD , and C D E \triangle CDE are similar. Let B C = a BC=a , C A = b CA=b , and A B = c AB=c . From similar triangles,

A B C A = B C 60 c b = a 60 c = a b 60 Note that [ A B C ] = a b 2 = 3750 = 7500 60 = 125 \begin{aligned} \frac {AB}{CA} & = \frac {BC}{60} \\ \frac cb & = \frac a{60} \\ \implies c & = \frac {\color{#3D99F6}ab}{60} & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Note that }[ABC] = \frac {ab}2 = 3750 \\ & = \frac {7500}{60} = 125 \end{aligned}

Then we have [ C D E ] [ A B C ] = 6 0 2 12 5 2 \dfrac {[CDE]}{[ABC]} = \dfrac {60^2}{125^2} , [ C D E ] = 6 0 2 12 5 2 × 3750 = 864 \implies [CDE] = \dfrac {60^2}{125^2} \times 3750 = 864 . Let E C = x EC=x and D E = y DE=y . Then

{ x y 2 = 864 y = 1728 x . . . ( 1 ) x 2 + y 2 = 6 0 2 = 3600 . . . ( 2 ) \begin{cases} \dfrac {xy}2 = 864 \implies y = \dfrac {1728}x & ...(1) \\ x^2 + y^2 = 60^2 = 3600 & ...(2) \end{cases}

From ( 2 ) (2) :

x 2 + 172 8 2 x 2 = 3600 Substituting y = 1728 x x 4 3600 x 4 + 2985984 = 0 Rearranging and solving ( x 2 1296 ) ( x 2 2304 ) = 0 the quadratic for x 2 \begin{aligned} x^2 + \color{#3D99F6} \frac {1728^2}{x^2} & = 3600 & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Substituting }y = \frac {1728}x \\ x^4 - 3600 x^4 + 2985984 & = 0 & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Rearranging and solving} \\ (x^2-1296)(x^2 - 2304) & = 0 & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{the quadratic for }x^2 \end{aligned}

x = { 36 = E C 48 = D E \implies x = \begin{cases} 36 = EC \\ 48 = DE \end{cases} . Therefore the perimeter of C D E \triangle CDE is C D + D E + E C = 60 + 48 + 36 = 144 CD+DE+EC = 60+48+36 = \boxed{144} .

Nice solution!

David Vreken - 2 years, 1 month ago
Vinayak Nayak
May 3, 2019

@David Vreken This way, we can find out sin(2A) and use it to solve this problem. Pardon me for the slapdash diagram, but you get the idea...

Wow, fantastic diagram and solution! Thanks for sharing.

David Vreken - 2 years, 1 month ago
Joshua Lowrance
May 1, 2019

If the area of the entire triangle is 3750 3750 , then we have that C D × B A 2 = 3750 = > 60 × B A 2 = 3750 = > B A = 3750 × 2 60 = 125 \frac{CD \times BA}{2}=3750 => \frac{60 \times BA}{2}=3750 => BA=\frac{3750 \times 2}{60}=125 .

We know that A C × B C = C D × B A = 60 × 125 AC \times BC = CD \times BA = 60 \times 125 . Rearranging we get A C × B C 60 = 125 \frac{AC \times BC}{60} = 125 . However, we also know by Pythagorean theorem that A C 2 + B C 2 = B A = 125 \sqrt{AC^2+BC^2} = BA = 125 . At this point, I graphed the two functions ( x × y 60 = 125 \frac{x \times y}{60} = 125 and x 2 + y 2 = 125 \sqrt{x^2+y^2}=125 ) and found that the intersect each other at ( 75 , 100 ) (75,100) . So now we know that B C = 75 BC=75 and A C = 100 AC=100 .

Next, we can look at the leftmost triangle. To find B D BD , we can use Pythagorean theorem. B D = B C 2 D C 2 = 7 5 2 6 0 2 = 45 BD=\sqrt{BC^2-DC^2}=\sqrt{75^2-60^2}=45 . We can subtract this from B A BA to find D A DA : D A = B A B D = 125 45 = 80 DA=BA-BD=125-45=80 .

We also know that C A × D E = C D × D A CA \times DE = CD \times DA . Rearranging to find D E DE , we get that D E = C D × D A C A = 60 × 80 100 = 48 DE = \frac{CD \times DA}{CA} = \frac{60 \times 80}{100} = 48 .

Finally, we can use Pythagorean theorem on the purple triangle: C D = C D 2 D E 2 = 6 0 2 4 8 2 = 36 CD = \sqrt{CD^2-DE^2} = \sqrt{60^2-48^2} = 36 .

Therefore, the perimeter of C E D CED is 60 + 48 + 36 = 144 60+48+36=144 .

Nice solution!

David Vreken - 2 years, 1 month ago

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Thank you!

Joshua Lowrance - 2 years, 1 month ago

From the given informations, we get sin(2A)=0.96. Therefore sin(A)=0.6, cos(A)=0.8 Hence perimeter of the triangle CDE is 60(1+sin(A)+cos(A))=144

How do you know sin(2A) = 0.96?

David Vreken - 2 years, 1 month ago

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BC=60secA, CE=60sinA, DE=60cosA, EA=60cosAcotA. Therefore CA=CE+EA=60cosecA. Area of the triangle ABC is (1/2)(BC) (CA). This gives (60secA) (60cosecA)=(2)(3750)=7500, or sinAcosA=12/25 or sin(2A)=24/25=0.96

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Oh, I see now. Nice!

David Vreken - 2 years, 1 month ago
Richard Desper
May 10, 2019

I'll start with the observation that A B = 125 AB = 125 , given the values of C D = 60 CD=60 and the area of triangle A B C = 3750 \triangle ABC=3750 .

Let x = B D x = BD . Then A D = 125 x AD = 125-x , and given the similarity of triangles B D C \triangle BDC and C D A \triangle CDA , we see that 60 x = 125 x 60 \frac{60}{x} = \frac{125-x}{60} .

Cross-multiplying leads to 3600 = x ( 125 x ) 3600 = x(125-x) , a quadratic equation with solutions x = 45 x = 45 and x = 80 x = 80 . (Aside: the picture suggests that our value of x x is the lesser of these two values, but we cannot infer that choice from the information provided. Pictures cannot be used to infer information not explicitly provided. )

If we let x = 45 x = 45 , then we see that all the triangles are similar, with leg proportions in a 3 : 4 : 5 3:4:5 ratio. This leads to (calculations omitted) B C = 75 , A E = 64 , C E = 36 BC = 75, AE = 64, CE = 36 , and D E = 48 DE = 48 , with the perimeter of C D E = 36 + 48 + 60 = 144 \triangle CDE = 36 + 48 + 60 = 144 .

If, however, x = 80 x = 80 , then the proportions on all the triangles are swapped, with the previously shorter legs now the longer legs. This leads to B C = 100 , A E = 27 , C E = 48 , BC = 100, AE = 27, CE = 48, and D E = 36 DE = 36 . In this case we also get that the perimeter of C D E = 36 + 48 + 60 = 144 \triangle CDE = 36 + 48 + 60 = 144 .

Nice solution! This is pretty much the same way that I solved it.

David Vreken - 2 years, 1 month ago

Thanks, David!

Richard Desper - 2 years, 1 month ago
Edwin Gray
May 8, 2019

Area of triangle ABC = 3750 = (1/2) 60 (BA), so BA = 125. Define BD = x and <DCB = <CDE = <BAC = t. BC = sqrt(3600 + x^2). sin(t) = x/sqrt(3600 + x^2) = sqrt(3600 + x^2)/125. Cross-multiplying, x^2 -125x + 3600 = 0, or (x - 45)(x - 80) = 0, so x = 45 or x = 80. If x = 80, DC = 60, BC = 100, sin(t) = (CE)/60 = 80/100 = .8, and CE = 48,DE = 36, and DE + CE + DC = 144. If x = 45, DC = 60, BC = 75. Sin(t) = 75/125 = .6, = CE /60, and CE = 36. Then DE = 48, and DE + CE + DC = 144.

Nice solution!

David Vreken - 2 years, 1 month ago

David, thank you

Edwin Gray - 2 years, 1 month ago
Hosam Hajjir
May 8, 2019

Let A = t \angle A = t and let A B = h AB = h , then C D = 60 = h cos t sin t CD = 60 = h \cos t \sin t , and [ A B C ] = 3750 = 1 2 h 2 cos t sin t [ABC] = 3750 = \frac{1}{2} h^2 \cos t \sin t . Dividing the second equation by the first equation, yields, h = 125, from which cos t sin t = 1 2 sin ( 2 t ) = 60 / 125 \cos t \sin t = \frac{1}{2} \sin(2t) = 60 / 125 , or sin ( 2 t ) = 24 / 25 \sin(2t) = 24/25 , and this means that cos ( 2 t ) = 2 5 2 2 4 2 / 25 = 7 25 \cos(2t) = \sqrt{25^2 - 24^2}/25 =\frac{ 7}{25} . This in turn implies that cos t = ( 1 + cos 2 t ) / 2 = 1 2 ( 1 + 7 25 ) = 4 5 \cos t = \sqrt{ (1 + \cos 2 t ) / 2 } = \sqrt{ \frac{1}{2}(1 + \frac{7}{25}) } =\frac{ 4}{5} , and therefore, sin t = 3 5 \sin t = \frac{3}{5} . Now D E = C D cos t = 60 ( 4 / 5 ) = 48 DE = CD \cos t = 60 ( 4/5 )= 48 , and C E = C D sin t = 60 ( 3 / 5 ) = 36 CE = CD \sin t = 60 ( 3/5 ) = 36 , so perimeter = 60 + 48 + 36 = 144 = 60 + 48 + 36 = \boxed{144} .

Great solution!

David Vreken - 2 years, 1 month ago

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