Nested again

Algebra Level 5

1 + 3 1 + 4 1 + 5 1 + 6 1 + = ? \large \sqrt{1 + 3\sqrt{1 + 4\sqrt{1 + 5\sqrt{1 + 6\sqrt{1 + \ldots}}}}} = \ ?


The answer is 4.

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7 solutions

Robert Haywood
Nov 16, 2014

In problems like these, f ( x ) = x + n + a f(x)=x+n+a .

Also, f ( x ) = a x + ( n + a ) 2 + x a x + ( n + a ) 2 + ( x + n ) a x + . . . f(x)=\sqrt{ax+(n+a)^2+x\sqrt{ax+(n+a)^2+(x+n)\sqrt{ax+...}}} , and it is fairly obvious that a=0, n=1, and x=3.

So just add those to get 4, which is the answer.

Thanks Ramanujan!

I did it with a slightly different method.Here it is: 1 + 2 1 + 3 1 + 4 = 3 \sqrt{1+2\sqrt{1+3\sqrt{1+4\sqrt{\dotsm}}}}=3 The above stated nested radical is a very famous nested radical first stated be Ramanujan.And it is equal to 3 3 .Now we can see that the question is embedded in this radical so to get the question from this radical,we do this: 3 = 1 + 2 1 + 3 1 + 4 3=\sqrt{1+2\sqrt{1+3\sqrt{1+4\sqrt{\dotsm}}}} 3 2 = 1 + 2 1 + 3 1 + 4 3^2=1+2\sqrt{1+3\sqrt{1+4\sqrt{\dotsm}}} 9 1 2 = 1 + 3 1 + 4 \frac{9-1}{2}=\sqrt{1+3\sqrt{1+4\sqrt{\dotsm}}} Lo and behold,we have got the value of the question! Simply solving the R.H.S we get: 9 1 2 = 8 2 = 4 \frac{9-1}{2}=\frac{8}{2}=\boxed{4}

Abdur Rehman Zahid - 6 years, 6 months ago

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how did you figure that mess = 3 ?

Duc Huynh - 6 years, 6 months ago

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Go through http://zariski.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/sr_nroots.pdf

Leela Krishna Battu - 6 years, 6 months ago

mess, huh? It is the one of the finest and beautiful results in Mathematics.

Swapnil Das - 5 years, 6 months ago

Its the ramanujan general formula, but as u can see the first radical is 1+2 and not 1+3l, as we have it in this instance, any way both solutions are correct.

Sam Shokoohideh - 6 years, 6 months ago

It is a very famous nested radical stated by Ramanujan which equals 3 3 .Go through Ramanujan,s wikipedia page.You,ll find it

Abdur Rehman Zahid - 6 years, 6 months ago

Nice! Also, for the very first equation I used, we can simplify these cases to get:

a + b a + ( b + 1 ) a + . . . = a + b \sqrt{a+b\sqrt{a+(b+1)\sqrt{a+...}}}=a+b

Now, I don't know how it works in other cases, and this is pretty specific, but if you see radicals like this one, you could just use the above equation.

Robert Haywood - 6 years, 6 months ago

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It would be a + b \sqrt{a} + b but here as a=1 you find no change

Krishna Sharma - 6 years, 6 months ago

I know but this is the first thing that popped in my mind.

Abdur Rehman Zahid - 6 years, 6 months ago

Hey .... I did the same as I also knew that.

Akshat Sharda - 5 years, 9 months ago

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Now that I think of it,this is more of a shortcut than a solution :-p

Abdur Rehman Zahid - 5 years, 5 months ago

I like your proof very much. A small typo towards the end, solving the L.H.S we get:

Jeganathan Sriskandarajah - 5 years, 5 months ago

n can't be -1?

Lipsa Kar - 5 years, 10 months ago
Jatin Thareja
Nov 23, 2014

x²=1+x²-1.......(i)

x²=1+(x+1)(x-1)

Now Further,

x+1=√(x+1)²

x+1=√1+(x+2)(x) (using (i) )

Again

x+2=√1+(x+3)(x+1)

Finally

x²=1+(x-1)√1+(x) √1+(x+3)(x+1)... and so on

x=√1+(x-1)√1+(x) √1+(x+1)(x+3)...

Now according to the given equation put x=4 :

4=√1+(4-1)√1+(4) √1+(4+1)...

4=√1+3√1+4 √1+5...

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Anna Anant
Nov 26, 2014

[x+n]^2 = n^2 + 2nx + x^2 = n^2 + x [(x+n) + n] [x+n] = sqrt(n^2 + x [(x+n)+n]) replace x+n with its definition. x+n = sqrt(n^2 + x sqrt(n^2 + (x+n)[(x+2n)+n])) x+n = sqrt(n^2 + x sqrt(n^2 + (x+n) sqrt(n^2 + (x+2n) sqrt(...)...) set n = 1, x = 3 to get 3+1 = 4 = sqrt(1+3sqrt(1+(4sqrt(1+(5sqrt())))

so the answer is 4

R a m a n u j a n i d e n t i t y 3 = 1 + 2 1 + 3 1 + 4 1 + 5 1 + 6 1 + S q u a r i n g b o t h s i d e s 9 = 1 + 2 1 + 3 1 + 4 1 + 5 1 + 6 1 + 4 = 1 + 3 1 + 4 1 + 5 1 + 6 1 + Ramanujan\ identity\ \ \ \large\ 3= \sqrt{1 + 2\sqrt{1 + 3\sqrt{1 + 4\sqrt{1 + 5\sqrt{1 + 6\sqrt{1 + \ldots}}}}}}\\ Squaring\ both\ sides \large\ \ \ 9=1+2\sqrt{1 + 3\sqrt{1 + 4\sqrt{1 + 5\sqrt{1 + 6\sqrt{1 + \ldots}}}}}\\ \therefore\ {\Huge \color{#D61F06}{4}}\ \ =\large \sqrt{1 + 3\sqrt{1 + 4\sqrt{1 + 5\sqrt{1 + 6\sqrt{1 + \ldots}}}}}\\

One key to answer this question is to know the "great" Ramanujan identity. Beautiful identity indeed.

Atomsky Jahid
Jan 16, 2016

The crux move to this problem is that, n^2=1+(n-1)(n+1) So, n=sqrt(1+(n-1)(n+1)) Then you can do the same thing with (n+1)

Elkio deAtn
Oct 3, 2015

function rr(n){

var last=n Math.sqrt(2+n); while (n>3){ last=(n-1) Math.sqrt(1+last); n--;

} return Math.sqrt(1+last); }

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