If the roots of p ( x ) = x 3 + 3 x 2 + 4 x − 8 are a , b and c , what is the value of
a 2 ( 1 + a 2 ) + b 2 ( 1 + b 2 ) + c 2 ( 1 + c 2 ) ?
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Great!
P.s. All those who didn't yet understand look at this. The polynomial is the example.
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Wow! I didn't even know they had used an example. I legit made up the polynomial to be agreeable with the question.
I learnt from you this method. Thanks !!
It could easily be identified that p ( 1 ) = 0
So ( x − 1 ) is a factor of p ( x )
p ( x ) = ( x − 1 ) ( x 2 + 4 x + 8 )
So other two roots will be − 2 ± 2 i
So a = 1 , b = − 2 + 2 i , c = − 2 − 2 i where i = − 1
The given expression can be written as
2 + − 8 i ( 1 − 8 i ) + 8 i ( 1 + 8 i )
= 2 − 1 2 8
So the answer is − 1 2 6
Very nice approach!
I used rational root theorem to find the root of 1. It's probably one of the most simple theorems to use in my opinion. Then, I find the other roots using the same method you used. I honestly think it's easier to find the roots of the polynomial than to use Newton Sums, though the Newton Sums method is just as effective.
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Newton's sums would be a more general method, which allows you to approach the problem even when the polynomial cannot be (easily) solved.
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In this case, I found it quicker to find the roots here. But in many other cases involving polynomials, Newton's Sums approach works the best.
a 2 ( 1 + a 2 ) + b 2 ( 1 + b 2 ) + c 2 ( 1 + c 2 ) = ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 ) Define the following sums: ⎩ ⎪ ⎪ ⎪ ⎨ ⎪ ⎪ ⎪ ⎧ P 1 = a + b + c P 2 = a 2 + b 2 + c 2 P 3 = a 3 + b 3 + c 3 P 4 = a 4 + b 4 + c 4 Newton's sums tell us that: ⎩ ⎪ ⎪ ⎪ ⎨ ⎪ ⎪ ⎪ ⎧ P 1 + 3 = 0 P 2 + 3 P 1 + 8 = 0 P 3 + 3 P 2 + 4 P 1 − 2 4 = 0 P 4 + 3 P 3 + 4 P 2 − 8 P 1 = 0 Solving this system of equations,we get P 1 = − 3 , P 2 = 1 , P 3 = 3 3 , P 4 = − 1 2 7 .Out of these, P 2 a n d P 4 are the ones we need.So ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 ) = P 2 + P 4 = 1 + ( − 1 2 7 ) = 1 − 1 2 7 = − 1 2 6
Please note that the expression in the question can also be written as a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + a 2 + b 2 + c 2
Let's begin!
If a , b , c are the roots, then
a 3 + 3 a 2 + 4 a − 8 = 0 ... ( i )
b 3 + 3 b 2 + 4 b − 8 = 0 ... ( i i )
c 3 + 3 c 2 + 4 c − 8 = 0 ... ( i i i )
Multipying a to ( i ) , b to ( i i ) and c to ( i i i ) , we get
a 4 + 3 a 3 + 4 a 2 − 8 a = 0
b 4 + 3 b 3 + 4 b 2 − 8 a = 0
c 4 + 3 c 3 + 4 c 2 − 8 a = 0
Adding the above equations, we get
a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + 3 ( a 3 + b 3 + c 3 ) + 4 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) − 8 ( a + b + c ) = 0 .
⟹ ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + 3 ( a 3 + b 3 + c 3 ) + 3 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) − 8 ( a + b + c ) = 0 .
⟹ ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) = − 3 ( a 3 + b 3 + c 3 ) − 3 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) + 8 ( a + b + c )
Hence, we have arrived at an equation for the required expression. All we need to do is to plug in the values of ( a 3 + b 3 + c 3 ) , ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) and ( a + b + c ) .
By Vieta's Formula we have
a + b + c = − 3
a b + b c + a c = 4
a b c = 8
Let's find the values of the unknowns...
Firstly,
a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = ( a + b + c ) 2 − 2 ( a b + b c + a c )
a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = ( − 3 ) 2 − 2 ( 4 ) = 1
Secondly we have,
a 3 + b 3 + c 3 = ( a + b + c ) [ a 2 + b 2 + c 2 − ( a b + b c + a c ) ] + 3 a b c
a 3 + b 3 + c 3 = ( − 3 ) [ 1 − 4 ] + 3 ( 8 ) = 3 3
Therefore,
( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) = − 3 ( 3 3 ) − 3 ( 1 ) + 8 ( − 3 ) = − 1 2 6 .
apply Vieta's formulas
a^2(1 + a^2) + b^2(1 + b^2) + c^2(1 + c^2)
= a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + a^4 + b^4 + c^4
a, b, and c are roots
We'll use these values later in the other equations
a + b + c = -3 (second numerical coefficient over the leading coefficient)
abc = 8 (last numerical coefficient over the leading coefficient)
ab + ac + bc = 4 (third numerical coefficient over the leading coefficient)
(a + b + c)^2 = (-3)^2 = 9
(a + b + c)^2 = 9
=> a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 2(ab + ac + bc) = 9
=> a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 2(4) = 9
=> a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = 1 <--- will be used on the main problem
(ab + ac + bc)^2 = (4)^2 = 16
(ab + ac + bc)^2 = 16
=> a^2b^2 + a^2c^2 + b^2c^2 + 2abc(a + b + c) = 16
=> a^2b^2 + a^2c^2 + b^2c^2 + 2(8)(-3) = 16
=> a^2b^2 + a^2c^2 + b^2c^2 - 48 = 16
=> a^2b^2 + a^2c^2 + b^2c^2 = 64 <-- will be used in the next equation
(a^2 + b^2 + c^2)^2 = (1)^2 = 1
(a^2 + b^2 + c^2)^2 = 1
=> a^4 + b^4 + c^4 + 2(a^2b^2 + a^2c^2 + b^2c^2)=1
=> a^4 + b^4 + c^4 + 2(64) = 1
=> a^4 + b^4 + c^4 = -127 <-- will be used on the main problem
going back to the main problem:
find the value of
a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + a^4 + b^4 + c^4
simply just substitute:
a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = 1
a^4 + b^4 + c^4 = -127
therefore
a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + a^4 + b^4 + c^4
= 1 -127
= -126
Notice x=1 is a solution so factor x^3+3x^2+4x-8 to (x-1)(x^2+4x+8). let a=1 and the roots of x^2+4x+8 be b and c. (x-b)(x-c)= x^2+4x+8. so bc=8 and b+c=-4. expand and simplify a^2(1+a^2) + b^2(1+b^2) +c^2(1+c^2) with a=1. so then we have 2+b^2+c^2+c^4+b^4. solve for a^2+b^2 with b+c=-4 and bc=8 (b+c)^2=b^2+c^2+2*bc. plug in value of bc and b+c. so (-4)^2=b^2+c^2+2(8). Then b^2+c^2=0. Then solve for b^4+c^4. (b^2+c^2)^2 =b^4+c^4+ 2(bc)^2. 0^2 =b^4+c^4+2(8)^2 so b^4+c^4=-128. So the value we want is 2+0-128 =-126
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Let S 1 = a + b + c , S 2 = a b + b c + c a , S 3 = a b c and P n = a n + b n + c n .
Then the value,
S = a 2 ( 1 + a 2 ) + b 2 ( 1 + b 2 ) + c 2 ( 1 + c 2 )
= a 2 + b 2 + c 2 + a 4 + b 4 + c 4 = P 2 + P 4
Then using Vieta's Formula - Higher Degrees , we have: S 1 = − 3 , S 2 = 4 , S 3 = 8 . And using Newton's Identities we have:
P 1 = S 1 = − 3
P 2 = S 1 P 1 − 2 S 2 = ( − 3 ) ( − 3 ) − 2 ( 4 ) = 9 − 8 = 1
P 3 = S 1 P 2 − S 2 P 1 + 3 S 3 = ( − 3 ) ( 1 ) − ( 4 ) ( − 3 ) + 3 ( 8 )
= − 3 + 1 2 + 2 4 = 3 3
P 4 = S 1 P 3 − S 2 P 2 + S 3 P 1 = ( − 3 ) ( 3 3 ) − ( 4 ) ( 1 ) + ( 8 ) ( − 3 )
= − 9 9 − 4 − 2 4 = − 1 2 7
Therefore, S = P 2 + P 4 = 1 − 1 2 7 = − 1 2 6