No 0's at all!

A \color{#D61F06}{A} and B \color{#3D99F6}{B} are whole numbers that do not contain 0 as a digit when expressed in base 10

If A × B = 10000 , \color{#D61F06}{A} \times \color{#3D99F6}{B} = 10000, then what is A + B ? \color{#D61F06}{A}+\color{#3D99F6}{B}?


The answer is 641.

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12 solutions

Eli Ross Staff
Sep 25, 2015

Note that 10000 = 1 0 4 = 2 4 5 4 . 10000 = 10^4 = 2^4 \cdot 5^4. Any number which has 2 AND 5 as factors will end in a 0, so the only possible way to write 10000 as a product of two numbers which don't contain 0s is 10000 = 2 4 5 4 = 16 625 10000 = 2^4 \cdot 5^4 = 16 \cdot 625 , so the sum is 16 + 625 = 641. 16+625 = 641.

nice solution..

Ricky Honarto - 5 years, 8 months ago

We are kind of lucky in this problem that 2^4 and 5^4 have no zeros.

Andrei Rotenstein - 3 years, 7 months ago

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Good point. 2^9 and 5^8 each have zeros. So was it luck that this problem didn’t involve 10^9 or 10^8? Or careful design?

Phillip Wagoner - 2 years, 6 months ago

Maybe I don't know enough math or English te understand the question completely but I had this interpretation. Writing 10000 as the product of 2 whole numbers that as a 10 base have no zeroes in the digits leads to 250 x 40 which as 10 base is (25x10^1) x (4x10^1) which satisfies the condition. The sum of these numbers is 290.clearly the wrong answer. Where is my interpretation wrong?

Maarten van Helden - 2 years, 12 months ago

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The expressions 25x10^1 and 8x10^1 are written in scientific notation, not base ten — or 10 base, as you call it — notation.

The numbers 250 and 80 are written in base ten notation. Contrary to a condition of the problem, 0 does appear as a digit — in the ones place in each number.

Phillip Wagoner - 2 years, 6 months ago

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محمد كذلك - 5 years, 8 months ago
Long Nguyen
Sep 27, 2015

Without writing down, this is pretty much random guess from well known factors

10,000 should = xx5 * xx2

And, it's known that 125 * 8 = 1,000 => 10,000 = 125 * 80. To eliminate zero from 80, divide it by something odd, like 5: 80 / 5 = 16. Next: 125 * 5 = 625

=> 10,000 = 16 * 625

-- Edited: Just read other comments, I think prime factorization is the formal academic solution to this.

But I like your solution (Y)

Ahmed Obaiedallah - 5 years, 8 months ago

I’m taken with your “guess and check (and adjust)” procedure of arriving at the 5^4 * 2^4 solution. Fun to follow.

But I’m curious about the meaning of xx5 * xx2 and how 125 * 8 comes from that. (Is it 5 5 5 and 2 2 2? IOW 5^3 and 2^3?) Interesting how close to the final solution you were early on.

Phillip Wagoner - 2 years, 6 months ago
Ahmed Mogy
Sep 27, 2015

Neat solution.

Zoe Codrington - 2 years, 7 months ago
Ramiel To-ong
Sep 29, 2015

just refer to Fox' theorem

Haven’t heard of Fox theorem. What is it?

Zoe Codrington - 2 years, 7 months ago

I don’t know either

Christine Tan - 11 months, 1 week ago
Apratim Ganguly
Oct 7, 2018

10000 = 100x100= 25x4x25×4 = 625*16. Hence the required sum is 625+16 = 641

Amed Lolo
Jan 6, 2016

A×B=100×100=(4×25)×(4×25)=16×625,A+B=641##

Tushar Kaurani
Sep 27, 2015

It can be easily solved by prime factorization method. Prime factors of 10000 can be written as Now separate the terms which do not contain 0 as digit. The only way to do this is to keep all 2s and 5s separate i.e. And hence,

. .
Jul 24, 2020

10000=2^4*5^4=10^4 2^4=16 5^4=625 16+625=641. Both 625 and 16 have no 0s.

Zoe Codrington
Aug 27, 2018

At first glance, we all think that 10000 is 10x10x10x10(correct), but the secret here is that 10=2x5

So 10000 =10x10x10x10=2x2x2x2x5x5x5x5=2^4 x 5^4.

2^4=16

5^4=625

625+16=641

I know these sums are messy. Sorry!

Use latex. It’s really nice. Before i used latex, my solutions looked like chicken scratch. And they still do now.

Krishna Karthik - 2 years, 7 months ago

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Oh. Ok. Thanks.

Zoe Codrington - 2 years, 7 months ago

Then, why do you say to him, "Use Latex"?

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Jack Han
Jan 16, 2016

Expressed as a product of its prime factors, 10000 = 2 4 5 4 10000=2^4 \cdot 5^4

A = 2 4 = 16 A=2^4=16

B = 5 4 = 625 B=5^4=625

A + B = 16 + 625 = 641 \therefore A+B=16+625=641

625 x 16 = 10000, 625 + 16 = 641

Utkarsh Kumar
Sep 27, 2015

Factors 10000 are four 2's and four 5's. We get a zero only when we multiply 2&5 . so answer would be 5^4+2^4

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