What is the smallest value (round off to 1 decimal point) that
4 9 + a 2 − 7 2 a + a 2 + b 2 − 2 a b + 5 0 + b 2 − 1 0 b
can have for positive real numbers a and b ?
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Use AM>= GM. All three terms are positive and can be written as
( a − 2 7 ) 2 + 2 4 9 + ( a − 2 b ) 2 + 2 b 2 + ( 2 1 0 − 2 b ) 2 + 2 b 2
Visually We can see that all three terms are same when a=10/sqrt(2) and b=7. But this doesn't give the correct answer. Can anybody explain why?
Bravo! :')
nice representation!
@Best of Algebra @Calvin Lin Why the problem wording was changed? The answer should not be in 1 decimal place...
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For questions like this where the integer value answer is easy to guess, I've started to edit the answers to require more information.
I've updated the correct answer accordingly. Those who previously entered 13 are still correct.
You'll understand when you see Abhimanyu Singh's solution below.
Oh NO! I miscalculated & got 13.4 instead! Silly me! Well, how do you insert an image in a solution?
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Just read Tunk-Fey Ariawan's comment up there :)
you convert from algebra to geometry/ superb!!!
Consider this figure:
By the Law of Cosines:A B = 4 9 + a 2 − 7 2 a
B C = a 2 + b 2 − 2 a b
By the Pythagorean Theorem:
C D = 5 0 + b 2 − 1 0 b
The sum A B + B C + C D can be minimized to A D when a and b are such that B and C lie on A D . By the Pythagorean Theorem, A D = 1 3 .
Superb!!
Good geometric approach nice job!!
Such a clean and outstanding solution, One thing though, how did you manage to spot it as a geometric question. Really impressive. :)
Frankly, I did the same. But I don't know how did we justify the planer figure. I mean the vectors a and b and 5 0 could be outside the plane as well for minimum value.
Lets try to solve this by basic reasoning approach
As the expression is [ 4 9 + a 2 − 7 2 a + a 2 + b 2 − 2 a b + 5 0 + b 2 − 1 0 b ] .
Now 5 0 + b 2 − 1 0 b = [ b − 5 ] 2 + 2 5 .
So 5 0 + b 2 − 1 0 b is minimized, when b = 5 .
Now, putting b = 5 in second term, we get, [ 2 5 + a 2 − 5 2 a ]
Now, the first two terms can be written as,
[
[
a
−
2
7
]
2
+
2
4
9
+
[
a
−
2
5
]
2
+
2
2
5
]
Now, just a small work, find such value of a, that minimizes the expression. As [ a = 2 7 ] , minimizes first term and [ a = 2 5 ] minimizes second term, So, obviously to minimize both the terms [ a = 2 2 7 + 2 5 = 2 6 ]
Thus the minimum values for each term can be given by,
[
4
9
+
a
2
−
7
2
a
]
has minimum value =
5
[
5
0
+
a
2
−
5
2
a
]
has minimum value =
1
3
[
5
0
+
b
2
−
1
0
b
]
has minimum value =
5
So, 10 + 1 3 is the minimum value. i.e., 13.60555127546 , So integer value is 13 .
Note that your solution is incorrect. The minimum value is exactly 13, and not 13.60555.
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I know that, my approach doesn't give the actual result, and that's why I mentioned in the very first line " try to solve ", and the minimization approach will always give the approximate result .
"So obviously to minimize both" this is not at all obvious, not even true. Although it does the work, it is not a correct reasinoning..
Nice one
Right!
Why not try Minkowski inequality as ( a − 2 7 ) 2 + ( 2 7 ) 2 + ( − a + 2 b ) 2 + ( 2 b ) 2 + ( 5 2 − 2 b ) 2 + ( 2 − b ) 2 ≥ ( 2 1 7 ) 2 + ( 2 7 ) 2 = 1 3
Firstly i interpreted that these are magnitude of sum of two vectors having magnitude '7' and 'a' with angle between them 135 degree and similarly 'a' and 'b' with 135 degree angle , 5 0 . and 'b' with 135 degree angle...!! now drawn these vectors on Cartesian plane with coordinates and express these in vectors. now use Cauchy inequality by using concept of vectors,and by multiplying(dot product) these 3 vectors by appropriate vectors so that terms a,b are cancel out on summing them. this yield directly our required answer...!! { i am here only post key lines of my solution)
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Consider a pentagon O A B C D such that
O A = 7
O B = a
O C = b
O D = 5 2
∠ A O B = ∠ B O C = ∠ C O D = 4 5 ∘
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By Cosine Theorem ,
A B = \strut 4 9 + a 2 − 7 2 a
B C = \strut a 2 + b 2 − 2 a b
C D = \strut 5 0 + b 2 − 1 0 b
By Triangle Inequality ,
A B + B C + C D
≥ A D
≥ \strut 7 2 + ( 5 2 ) 2 − 2 ( 7 ) ( 5 2 ) cos 1 3 5 ∘
≥ \strut 4 9 + 5 0 + 2 ( 7 ) ( 5 2 ) ( 2 2 )
≥ 1 3
Hence, the minimum value is 1 3 .
This is also the suggested solution from the paper.