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Algebra Level 3

Let x x be a positive integer that is the answer to this question. What is the positive value of 3 x 2 34 x 98 3x^2-34x-98 ?


The answer is 14.

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Ben Frankel
Dec 16, 2013

What is the positive value of 3 x 2 34 x 98 3x^2 - 34x - 98 ?

I don't know, but whatever it is, it is the answer to the question!

Let x x equal the answer to this question.

So,

3 x 2 34 x 98 = x 3 x 2 35 x 98 = 0 ( 3 x + 7 ) ( x 14 ) = 0 x = 3 7 , 14 3x^2 - 34x - 98 = x \Rightarrow 3x^2 - 35x - 98 = 0 \Rightarrow (3x + 7)(x - 14) = 0 \Rightarrow x = -\frac{3}{7}, 14

the positive value of

So x = 14 x = \boxed{14} .

The latex went past the edge of the comment there.. oops. There's a scrollbar, but anyways, here's a fix:

3 x 2 34 x 98 = x 3 x 2 35 x 98 = 0 ( 3 x + 7 ) ( x 14 ) = 0 3x^2 - 34x - 98 = x \Rightarrow 3x^2 - 35x - 98 = 0 \Rightarrow (3x + 7)(x - 14) = 0

Thus, x = 7 3 , 14 x = -\frac{7}{3}, 14

Ben Frankel - 7 years, 5 months ago

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The values of x are not 3 7 -\frac{3}{7} and 14 14 ,the values are 7 3 -\frac{7}{3} and 14 14 .

Tan Li Xuan - 7 years, 5 months ago

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Yes, you're right.. I made that mistake because the negative value was ignored anyways so I didn't make sure it was right :)

Ben Frankel - 7 years, 5 months ago

Very good! I like how you explained each part of the problem. It also explains the trick of the problem of how the first sentence of the problem does not just say that you are solving for x x .

Trevor B. - 7 years, 5 months ago

What do you mean by,"I don't know."

Soham Dibyachintan - 7 years, 5 months ago

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I was explaining the trick of the question, since that is the only part that really needs explaining. Clearly I actually do know what the answer is.

Ben Frankel - 7 years, 5 months ago

yeah 14

Saqib Razzaaq - 7 years, 5 months ago

gud

Sowmy Vivek - 7 years, 4 months ago

According to the question, the value of the expression is x which is a positive integer. We need to find the positive value of the expression 3 x 2 34 x 98 3x^{2}-34x-98 . By following the directions in the question, we get the equation, 3 x 2 34 x 98 = x 3x^{2}-34x-98=x 3 x 2 35 x 98 = 0 \Rightarrow 3x^{2}-35x-98=0 3 x 2 42 x + 7 x 98 = 0 \Rightarrow 3x^{2}-42x+7x-98=0 3 x ( x 14 ) + 7 ( x 14 ) = 0 \Rightarrow 3x(x-14)+7(x-14)=0 ( x 14 ) ( 3 x + 7 ) = 0 \Rightarrow (x-14)(3x+7)=0 x = 14 \Rightarrow x=14 Since, x is a positive integer. As the value of the expression 3 x 2 34 x 98 3x^{2}-34x-98 is equal to x x , the answer is 14 \boxed{14} .

Prasun Biswas
Dec 17, 2013

According to the question, we have,

3 x 2 34 x 98 = x 3x^{2}-34x-98=x

3 x 2 35 x 98 = 0 \implies 3x^{2}-35x-98=0

3 x 2 42 x + 7 x 98 = 0 \implies 3x^{2}-42x+7x-98=0

3 x ( x 14 ) + 7 ( x 14 ) = 0 \implies 3x(x-14)+7(x-14)=0

( x 14 ) ( 3 x + 7 ) = 0 \implies (x-14)(3x+7)=0

x 14 = 0 \implies x-14=0 [neglecting 3x+7=0 as we require positive value of x]

x = 14 \implies x=\boxed{14}

Nishant Arya
Jan 4, 2014

The question is based on wordplay. If you read carefully, it is telling you that x is the answer, thus we get the equation

3 x 2 34 x 98 = x 3x^{2} - 34x - 98 = x

We can then solve it as a normal quadratic equation

3 x 2 35 x 98 = 0 3x^{2} - 35x - 98 = 0

Using the quadratic formula, the roots will be

35 ± ( 35 ) 2 ( 4 × 3 × ( 98 ) ) 2 × 3 \frac{35 \pm \sqrt{(-35)^2 - (4 \times 3 \times (-98))}}{2 \times 3}

35 ± 1225 ( 1176 ) 6 \frac{35 \pm \sqrt{1225- ( -1176 )}}{6}

35 ± 1225 + 1176 6 \frac{35 \pm \sqrt{1225 + 1176 }}{6}

35 ± 2401 6 \frac{35 \pm \sqrt{2401 }}{6}

35 ± 49 6 \frac{35 \pm 49}{6}

We want a positive answer

35 + 49 6 \frac{35 + 49}{6}

84 6 \Rightarrow \frac{84}{6}

14 \Rightarrow \boxed{14}

You made this easy sum more overcomplicated

Chitranshu Vashishth - 7 years, 4 months ago
Tan Li Xuan
Dec 17, 2013

If x x is a positive integer that is the answer to the question, then 3 x 2 34 x 98 = x 3x^{2} - 34x - 98 = x because the answer is the positive value of 3 x 2 34 x 98 3x^{2} - 34x - 98 .Then we subtract x x from both sides of the equation and we get 3 x 2 35 x 98 = 0 3x^{2} - 35x - 98 = 0 .Now we can factorize the equation into ( 3 x + 7 ) ( x 14 ) = 0 (3x+7)(x-14) = 0 .So either ( 3 x + 7 ) (3x+7) or ( x 14 ) (x-14) must be 0.Because the question is asking for a positive integer, x x is equal to 14.

Since x x is a solution to 3 x 2 34 x 98 3x^{2} -34 x - 98 then
3 x 2 34 x 98 = x 3x^{2} - 34x - 98= x
3 x 2 35 x 98 = 0 3x^{2} - 35x - 98 =0
Factoring this produces:
( 3 x + 7 ) ( x 14 ) = 0 (3x+7)(x-14) =0
x = 7 3 o r x = 14 x= -\frac{7}{3} or x= 14
Since the question requests the positive value, the answer is 14 \boxed{14} .





Avisek Agarwal
Jan 31, 2014

3x^2 -34x -98= x

=> 3x^2 -35x-98= 0

=> 3x^2 -42x+7x-98 = 0

=> 3x(x-14)+ 7(x-14)=0

=> (x-14)(3x+7)=0

=> x-14=0

=> x=14

The problem amounts to solving for a positive integer x x where 3 x 2 34 x 98 = x . 3x^2-34x-98=x. This yields the quadratic equation 3 x 2 35 x 98 = 0 3x^2-35x-98= 0 which factors as ( 3 x + 7 ) ( x 14 ) = 0 , (3x+7)(x-14) = 0, so that x = 7 3 x=-\frac{7}{3} or x = 14 x= 14 . Since x x is required to be a positive integer, we have x = 14 . x=\boxed{14}.

Hùng Minh
Dec 17, 2013

3X^2 - 34X - 98 = 0 <=> X ≈ 13, 72 or X ≈ -2, 38. X is a positive integer <=> X =14 => 3x 14^2 - 34 x14 - 98 = 14.

Budi Utomo
Dec 17, 2013

3x^2 - 34x - 98 = k. 3x^2 - 34x - (98 + k) = 0..(1) [x1 + x2 = 34/3, x1.x2 = - (98 + k)/3.] So, x2 = (34/3 - x1). Thus, x1(34/3 - x1) = -1/3 (k + 98) x1(34 - 3x1)/3 = -1/3 (k + 98) x1(34 - 3x1) = -(k + 98) - 3x1^2 + 34x1 = -(98+k) 3x1^2 - 34x1 - (98+k) = 0...........(2) We know if form (1) = (2).So, 3x^2 - 34x - (98 + k) = 0 [ k = x] 3x^2 - 34x - (98 + x) = 0 3x^2 - 35x - 98 = 0 (3x - 42)(x + 7/3) = 0 So, we have 3x - 42 = 0 , x = 42/3 = 14

Vishal Jindal
Dec 16, 2013

3x^2 -34x-98=x 3x^2 -35x-98 =0 factors 14 & -7/3 so answer 14

The wording of this question is odd at best.

Sheldon Collier - 7 years, 5 months ago

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