It's another Pythagoras' triplet? No way!

Geometry Level 3

I've drawn a triangle with sides of ratio 3 : 4 : 5 3:4:5 . Let θ \theta be the smallest interior angle of this triangle.

If I construct a right triangle with an interior angle of 2 θ 2 \theta , then which of the following could the ratio of sides of this new triangle?

9 : 40 : 41 9:40:41 10 : 24 : 26 10:24:26 7 : 24 : 25 7:24:25 8 : 15 : 17 8:15:17

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Michael Huang
Dec 26, 2016

Figure 1. Starting right triangle of Pythagorean triple \(3\)-\(4\)-\(5\). The red angle is indicated by \(\theta\). Figure 1. Starting right triangle of Pythagorean triple 3 3 - 4 4 - 5 5 . The red angle is indicated by θ \theta . Let θ \theta denote the shortest angle of the right triangle. Since the shortest angle must "face" the shortest side of the triangle, and the shortest side length is 3 3 , θ \theta must "face" the side with the length of 3 3 .

Note: Another way to see this is to consider the Law of Sine : A sin ( α ) = B sin ( β ) = G sin ( γ ) \dfrac{A}{\sin(\alpha)} = \dfrac{B}{\sin(\beta)} = \dfrac{G}{\sin(\gamma)} where A , B A, B and G G are side lengths that are opposite to the angles α , β \alpha, \beta and γ \gamma respectively. Since the ratio has the direct relationship, it is clear that as you increase the side length of the triangle, the corresponding angle increases. Likewise, decreasing the side length of the triangle decreases the angle.

Figure 2. New right triangle Figure 2. New right triangle Let's determine 2 θ 2\theta by trigonometry. Since from Figure 1 θ = arctan ( 3 4 ) \theta = \arctan\left(\dfrac{3}{4}\right) , we have 2 θ = 2 arctan ( 3 4 ) 2\theta = 2\arctan\left(\dfrac{3}{4}\right) . Applying the following identity (see Footnote ), 2 arctan ( α ) = arctan ( 2 α 1 α 2 ) 2\arctan(\alpha) = \arctan\left(\dfrac{2\alpha}{1 - \alpha^2}\right) where α = 3 4 \alpha = \dfrac{3}{4} , gives 2 arctan ( 3 4 ) = arctan ( 2 3 4 1 ( 3 4 ) 2 ) = arctan ( 24 7 ) \begin{array}{rl} 2\arctan\left(\dfrac{3}{4}\right) &= \arctan\left(\dfrac{2\cdot \frac{3}{4}}{1 - \left(\frac{3}{4}\right)^2}\right)\\ &= \arctan\left(\dfrac{24}{7}\right) \end{array} which shows that the new opposite side length is 24 24 , and the new adjacent side length is 7 7 . Thus, we obtain the new Pythagorean triple 7 : 24 : 25 \boxed{7:24:25} .


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To show that 2 arctan ( α ) = arctan ( 2 α 1 α 2 ) 2\arctan(\alpha) = \arctan\left(\dfrac{2\alpha}{1 - \alpha^2}\right) express 2 arctan ( α ) 2\arctan(\alpha) as 2 arctan ( α ) = arctan ( α ) + arctan ( α ) 2\arctan(\alpha) = \arctan(\alpha) + \arctan(\alpha) Since arctan ( x ) + arctan ( y ) = arctan ( x + y 1 x y ) \arctan(x) + \arctan(y) = \arctan\left(\dfrac{x + y}{1 - xy}\right) this shows that 2 arctan ( α ) = arctan ( α + α 1 α α ) = arctan ( 2 α 1 α 2 ) 2\arctan(\alpha) = \arctan\left(\dfrac{\alpha + \alpha}{1 - \alpha \cdot \alpha}\right) = \arctan\left(\dfrac{2\alpha}{1 - \alpha^2}\right)

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Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 5 months ago

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You made me smile again, including the time when you made some fun feedbacks from my previous solutions! :)

Michael Huang - 4 years, 5 months ago

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Fun fact: This question was motivated by an old problem of mine .

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 5 months ago
Eric Kim
Dec 26, 2016

In a 3:4:5 triangle, the smallest angle faces the smallest side, or 3. Call this angle x.

Thus, sin(x) = 0.6, and cos(x) = 0.8

If the angle becomes 2x, we can find the ratio of the opposite side to the hypotenuse, or sin(2x).

Using sin(2x) = 2cos(x)sin(x), we plug in the values we previously found and get sin(2x) = 0.96

This means that the ratio of the side opposite to 2x to the hypotenuse is 0.96:1 = 96:100 = 24:25.

Using the Pythagorean theorem, we can find the third side: 7.

Thus, the new ratio is 7:24:25

Anubhav Tyagi
Dec 27, 2016

Firstly we assume that the sides of triangle be 3k, 4k , and 5k for some non zero positive number k . We know that angle opposite to smallest side is smallest. Thus θ \theta is the angle opposite to the side 3k . Hence, From cosine rule we write, cos θ \cos\theta = 5 k 2 + 4 k 2 3 k 2 2 × ( 4 k ) × ( 5 k ) \frac{{5k}^{2} +{4k}^{2}-{3k}^{2}}{2\times (4k)\times (5k)} = 4 5 \frac{4}{5} . Now using trigonometry for multiple angles, we write cos 2 θ \cos 2\theta =2 cos 2 θ \cos^2 \theta -1 = 7 25 \frac{7}{25} and we get sin 2 θ \sin2\theta = 24 25 \frac{24}{25} ( \Big( sin 2 θ \sin2\theta \neq 24 25 \frac{-24}{25} because 2 θ 2\theta is less than π \pi ) \Big) . Since the triangle is right angled , we get the sides of the new triangle as 7m , 24m , 25m for some non zero positive number 'm' . Thus we get the ration of sides as 7 : 24 : 25 7:24:25

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Anubhav Tyagi - 4 years, 5 months ago

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a few pointers:

both k and m need not be an integer to begin with, it just needs to be a non-zero positive number.

you need to explain why sin(2theta) = -24/25 is not allowed as well.

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 5 months ago

@Pi Han Goh - Done it

Anubhav Tyagi - 4 years, 5 months ago

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Not quite right either. You're almost there. You need to justify why 2theta < pi, so that you can show that it's indeed a right triangle (as stated in the question).

Your explanation should be: "Because 0<theta < pi/2, then 0<2theta < pi ==> sin(2theta) > 0."

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 5 months ago

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