Normal reaction on a falling rod

An initially almost vertical uniform rod of mass m = 1 m = 1 kg is let free. The friction is sufficient for the bottom point to remain stationary. Find the normal reaction from ground on rod in Newtons at the instant when friction on the rod changes its direction. Use g = 9.8 g = 9.8 m/s 2 ^2 .


The answer is 2.45.

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4 solutions

Jatin Yadav
Apr 25, 2014

Consider the instant when the rod(in blue) makes an angle θ \theta with the vertical. Let the velocity of center of mass be v v , and angular acceleration of rod be α \alpha .Clearly, angular velocity is 2 v L \dfrac{2v}{L} The center of mass moves in a circle of radius L 2 \dfrac{L}{2} . Thus the acceleration of center of mass is as shown(in green) in the diagram. The forces are shown in red:

Taking torque about point of contact,

m L 2 3 α = m g L 2 sin θ \dfrac{mL^2}{3} \alpha = mg \dfrac{L}{2} \sin \theta L 2 α = 3 g sin θ 4 \Rightarrow \dfrac{L}{2} \alpha = \dfrac{3g \sin \theta}{4}

Also, using conservation of energy(taking both translational and rotational energies),

1 2 m L 2 3 4 v 2 L 2 = m g L 2 ( 1 cos θ ) \dfrac{1}{2} \dfrac{mL^2}{3} \dfrac{4v^2}{L^2}= mg \dfrac{L}{2} \big(1 - \cos \theta) 2 v 2 L = 3 g ( 1 cos θ ) 2 \Rightarrow \dfrac{2v^2}{L} = \dfrac{3g(1 - \cos \theta)}{2}

Now, using Newton's second law,

f = m a x = m ( L 2 α cos θ 2 v 2 L sin θ ) = 3 m g sin θ 4 ( 3 cos θ 2 ) f = ma_{x} = m \bigg(\dfrac{L}{2} \alpha \cos\theta - \dfrac{2v^2}{L} \sin \theta\bigg) = \boxed{\dfrac{3mg \sin \theta}{4} \big(3 \cos \theta - 2)} ,

N = m g a y = m g m ( L 2 α sin θ 2 v 2 L cos θ ) = m g 4 ( 3 cos θ 1 ) 2 N = mg - a_{y} = mg - m \bigg(\dfrac{L}{2} \alpha \sin\theta - \dfrac{2v^2}{L} \cos \theta\bigg) = \boxed{\dfrac{mg}{4} \big(3 \cos \theta - 1)^2}

Clearly, friction changes its direction when cos θ = 2 3 \cos \theta = \dfrac{2}{3} . Hence, putting this value in expression of N N , we get the required value as m g 4 = 2.45 N \dfrac{mg}{4} = 2.45 \text{ N }

Nice problem, and nice disciplined approach for the solution as well I see you are a VM student. Did bhaiya did this in class? :) I studied at VM as well.

Himanshu Arora - 6 years, 11 months ago

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Hi! All physics problems I share here are self made. Which batch u were in?

jatin yadav - 6 years, 11 months ago

A nice question with a good solution.

Jatin I am your fan. You are only 16 but you have very good knowledge of physics and maths. You are truly genius.

satvik pandey - 6 years, 8 months ago

Why is a y = L / 2 sin θ 2 v 2 / L cos θ a_y=L/2\sin\theta - 2v^2/L\cos\theta ? Aren't both in the same vertical direction (in the diagram)?

Shaun Leong - 4 years, 10 months ago
Maharnab Mitra
Jun 3, 2014

a a is linear acceleration and α \alpha is angular acceleration. Gravity acts on the centre of mass of the rod, i.e., at a distance l 2 \frac{l}{2} from an end.

simple but elegant solution

Ramon Vicente Marquez - 4 years, 5 months ago
Tushar Gopalka
Jan 8, 2015

A further question which can be added is : Physically, What is happening due to which the friction reverses its direction?

if there is no friction, the center of mass will only move downwards, no horizontal motion. in that case, the bottom end will have to move to the left. however in the problem, the bottom end does not move, which means friction is initially acting to the right. this also gives a rightward component to the motion of the center of mass. now since the bottom end does not move, you can think of the rod as being pinned at its bottom end. due to inertia, the center of mass will want to continue moving to the right, but since the rod is "pinned" at its bottom end, the friction will have to act to the left.

Ramon Vicente Marquez - 4 years, 5 months ago
Jacob Swenberg
Jan 5, 2017

Consider the rotational acceleration about the fixed end of the rod and about the center of the rod. The respective angular accelerations of each are the same, so the ratios of the torques about each equals the ratio of the rotational inertias. The rotational inertia about the center of the rod is ( m L 2 ) / 12 (mL^{2})/12 and the rotational inertia about the end is ( m L 2 ) / 3 (mL^{2})/3 . The torque by gravity about the end and the torque by the normal force about the end have the same lever arm and make the same angle with the rod (at the instant friction changes direction, there is no frictional force). Thus the force of gravity on the rod must be 4 times as great as the normal force on the rod (as the rotational inertia about the end is 4 times as large). So the normal force is m g / 4 = 9.8 / 4 = 2.45 N mg/4 = 9.8/4 = \boxed{2.45 N}

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