Not to Reach 10000

Logic Level 2

Dan and Sam play a game in which the first to start says the number 1, the next says 2, and the one who's next must say an integer number strictly between, (not including the endpoints), the number previously said and its square. Also, the said number can't be greater than the goal number, that is, 10000.

For example, Dan begins saying 1, then Sam says 2, and then Dan can say whichever number he wants between 2 and 4; as the only integer between 2 and 4 is 3, he must say 3 3 . Then, Sam can choose any number between 3 and 9; that is, he can say either 4, 5, 6, 7 or 8.

The game finishes when someone reaches 10000 (who is the loser ). If Dan begins, who will win? This means, who has a winning strategy?


This is the eighth problem of the set Winning Strategies .
Both Neither Dan Sam Dimitri

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2 solutions

Shourya Pandey
May 7, 2016

We show that Dan wins. We will correctly identify the "Kernels" in this combinatorial game.

Note that if Dan can plan a strategy such that he can bag the number 9999 9999 , then we are done. For this, he will plan to say the number 99 99 ; Sam must then say a number in [ 100 , 9800 ] [100,9800] , after which Dan can always choose 9999 9999 .

In turn, 99 99 can be stolen if 9 9 can be stolen, which in turns requires that Dan says the number 3 3 . But Dan can do this, so we are done.

So Dan's strategy would be to play the numbers 1 , 3 , 9 , 99 , 9999 1,3,9,99,9999 in that order.

Just a bit of rephrasing. Dan always starts by saying: "1, 3". Then he should continue: "9, 99, ...".

Borut Levart - 2 years, 8 months ago

If any player chooses number x x , the other player can choose any number between x 2 1 x^2-1 & x + 1 x+1 . Irrespective of the choice the 1st player can always choose numbers:- x 2 x^2 to x 2 + 2 x x^2+2x . This means that if we 'need' a number which is between x 2 x^2 & x 2 + 2 x x^2+2x , we need x x .

Thus, if we need any given number, all we need is its square root rounded down!

Here we need the number 9999 (to win), whose square root is slightly less 100, Thus we need 99. Square root of 99 is slightly less than 10 so we need 9. square root of 9 is 3 so we need 3. 3 is chosen by Dan. So Dan will win the round by choosing the numbers in reverse order i.e 3,9,99,9999

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