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Algebra Level 4

( x + 1 ) ( x + 2 ) ( x + 3 ) ( x + 4 ) = ( x + 5 ) ( x + 6 ) ( x + 7 ) ( x + 8 ) \large (x+1)(x+2)(x+3)(x+4)=(x+5)(x+6)(x+7)(x+8)

Find the sum of all distinct real solutions to the above equation.


The answer is -4.5.

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6 solutions

Otto Bretscher
Apr 28, 2016

L H S |LHS| is the product of the distances from points 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 -1,-2,-3,-4 , and likewise for R H S |RHS| . By symmetry, L H S = R H S LHS=RHS for x = 4.5 x=\boxed{-4.5} . For x > 4.5 x>-4.5 we have L H S < R H S |LHS|<|RHS| and vice versa for x < 4.5 x<-4.5 .

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Good direct explanation!

Nice solution+1

Ravi Dwivedi - 5 years, 1 month ago

Exactly! The shortest one possible i think.

Milind Blaze - 5 years, 1 month ago

Simple, but darn elegant, Sir Otto Bee!!

tom engelsman - 5 years, 1 month ago

I like the solution. But could not understand "|LHS| is the product of the distances from points - 1, - 2, - 3, - 4 ".
Can you please explain, or guide me to a web site ? Thanks.

Niranjan Khanderia - 4 years, 11 months ago

Again you arrived with a tricky solution. Mine was a bit lengthy, just like Ikku San's solution. But, this one is good.... (+1)

Raushan Sharma - 5 years, 1 month ago

were you surprised when you saw it was level 5?

Department 8 - 5 years, 1 month ago

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Frankly, I'm not putting much stock into these "Levels." I challenge myself to write one-line solutions for Level 3 and two-line for Level 4... should it be a Level 4 then? ;)

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 1 month ago

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The way You did it it is Level 5.

Niranjan Khanderia - 4 years, 11 months ago
Ikkyu San
Apr 28, 2016

( x + 1 ) ( x + 2 ) ( x + 3 ) ( x + 4 ) + 1 = ( x 2 + 5 x + 4 ) ( x 2 + 5 x + 4 + 2 ) + 1 = ( x 2 + 5 x + 4 ) 2 + 2 ( x 2 + 5 x + 4 ) + 1 = ( x 2 + 5 x + 5 ) 2 ( x + 5 ) ( x + 6 ) ( x + 7 ) ( x + 8 ) + 1 = ( x 2 + 13 x + 40 ) ( x 2 + 13 x + 40 + 2 ) + 1 = ( x 2 + 13 x + 40 ) 2 + 2 ( x 2 + 13 x + 40 ) + 1 = ( x 2 + 13 x + 41 ) 2 \begin{aligned}\implies(x+1)(x+2)(x+3)(x+4)+1=&(x^2+5x+4)(x^2+5x+4+2)+1\\=&(x^2+5x+4)^2+2(x^2+5x+4)+1\\=&(x^2+5x+5)^2\\\implies(x+5)(x+6)(x+7)(x+8)+1=&(x^2+13x+40)(x^2+13x+40+2)+1\\=&(x^2+13x+40)^2+2(x^2+13x+40)+1\\=&(x^2+13x+41)^2\end{aligned}

From Equation

( x + 1 ) ( x + 2 ) ( x + 3 ) ( x + 4 ) = ( x + 5 ) ( x + 6 ) ( x + 7 ) ( x + 8 ) ( x 2 + 5 x + 5 ) 2 1 = ( x 2 + 13 x + 41 ) 2 1 ( x 2 + 5 x + 5 ) 2 ( x 2 + 13 x + 41 ) 2 = 0 ( x 2 + 5 x + 5 x 2 13 x 41 ) ( x 2 + 5 x + 5 + x 2 + 13 x + 41 ) = 0 ( 8 x 36 ) ( 2 x 2 + 18 x + 46 ) = 0 ( 2 x + 9 ) ( x 2 + 9 x + 23 ) = 0 \begin{aligned}(x+1)(x+2)(x+3)(x+4)=&(x+5)(x+6)(x+7)(x+8)\\(x^2+5x+5)^2-1=&(x^2+13x+41)^2-1\\(x^2+5x+5)^2-(x^2+13x+41)^2=&0\\(x^2+5x+5-x^2-13x-41)(x^2+5x+5+x^2+13x+41)=&0\\(-8x-36)(2x^2+18x+46)=&0\\(2x+9)(x^2+9x+23)=&0\end{aligned}

Now,

2 x + 9 = 0 x = 9 2 x 2 + 9 x + 23 = 0 Δ = 9 2 4 ( 1 ) ( 23 ) = 11 < 0 [Complex Solution] \begin{aligned}&\implies2x+9=0\implies x=-\dfrac92\\&\implies x^2+9x+23=0\implies\Delta=9^2-4(1)(23)=-11<0\quad\text{[Complex Solution]}\end{aligned}

Thus, the sum of all real solutions is 9 2 = 4.5 -\dfrac92=\boxed{-4.5}

Chew-Seong Cheong
Apr 28, 2016

( x + 1 ) ( x + 2 ) ( x + 3 ) ( x + 4 ) = ( x + 5 ) ( x + 6 ) ( x + 7 ) ( x + 8 ) Let y = x + 9 2 ( y 7 2 ) ( y 5 2 ) ( y 3 2 ) ( y 1 2 ) = ( y + 1 2 ) ( y + 3 2 ) ( y + 5 2 ) ( y + 7 2 ) y 4 8 y 3 + 43 2 y 2 22 y + 105 16 = y 4 + 8 y 3 + 43 2 y 2 + 22 y + 105 16 16 y 3 + 44 y = 0 4 y 3 + 11 y = 0 y ( 4 y 2 + 11 ) = 0 y = 0 The other root is not real. x + 9 2 = 0 x = 9 2 \begin{aligned} (x+1)(x+2)(x+3)(x+4) & = (x+5)(x+6)(x+7)(x+8) \quad \quad \small \color{#3D99F6}{\text{Let }y=x+\frac{9}{2}} \\ \left(y-\frac 72\right) \left(y-\frac 52\right) \left(y-\frac 32\right) \left(y-\frac 12\right) & = \left(y+\frac 12\right) \left(y+\frac 32\right) \left(y+\frac 52\right) \left(y+\frac 72\right) \\ y^4 - 8 y^3 + \frac{43}{2}y^2 - 22y + \frac{105}{16} & = y^4 + 8 y^3 + \frac{43}{2}y^2 + 22y + \frac{105}{16} \\ \implies 16y^3 + 44y & = 0 \\ 4y^3 + 11y & = 0 \\ y(4y^2+11) & = 0 \\ \implies y & = 0 \quad \quad \small \color{#3D99F6}{\text{The other root is not real.}} \\ \implies x + \frac 92 & = 0 \\ x & = - \frac 92 \end{aligned}

The sum of all real roots is therefore 4.5 \boxed{-4.5} .

Similar method, but I proceeded by taking the AM of the terms and then changing the terms to accommodate the AM in them.

It makes the calculations a lot faster.

For example, the LHS terms are x + 1 , x + 2 , x + 3 , x + 4 \large x+1, x+2, x+3, x+4 . The AM of the terms would be x + 2.5 \large x+ 2.5 . Putting this as t, the LHS becomes ( t 1.5 ) ( t 0.5 ) ( t + 0.5 ) ( t + 1.5 ) \large (t-1.5)(t-0.5)(t+0.5)(t+1.5) .

Proceed to do the same for RHS. Two equations are formed this way. One gives real solutions, the other does not.

Pulkit Gupta - 5 years, 1 month ago

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Yes, you are right.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 years, 1 month ago

Same but I forgot to read real solutions

Aakash Khandelwal - 5 years, 1 month ago
Arjen Vreugdenhil
Apr 28, 2016

My solution was similar to that of Chew-Seong Cheong, but I cut down on some calculations.

Define y = x 4 1 2 y = x - 4\tfrac12 ; that symmetrizes the equation to ( y 7 2 ) ( y 5 2 ) ( y 3 2 ) ( y 1 2 ) = ( y + 1 2 ) ( y + 3 2 ) ( y + 5 2 ) ( y + 7 2 ) . (y-\tfrac7 2)(y-\tfrac 52)(y-\tfrac 32)(y-\tfrac12) = (y+\tfrac12)(y+\tfrac32)(y+\tfrac52)(y+\tfrac72). Due to the symmetry, we know that the terms with even exponents on each side will be the same. Therefore the equation reduces to a y 3 b y = a y 3 + b y a y 2 + b = 0 y = 0. -ay^3 - by = ay^3 + by\ \ \ \therefore\ \ \ ay^2 + b = 0\ \vee\ y = 0. Now a a and b b are both positive, so that a y 2 + b = 0 ay^2 + b = 0 has no real solutions. That leaves y = 0 y = 0 and thus x = 4 1 2 x = \boxed{4\tfrac12} .

Raz Lerman
Apr 28, 2016

From 16 x 3 + 216 x 2 + 1016 x + 1656 = 0 16x^3+216x^2+1016x+1656 = 0
We factor the left side of the equation and set the factors equal to zero. The factorazation: 8(2x+9) ( x 2 + 9 x + 23 ) (x^2+9x+23) . And 8 = 0, 2x+9 = 0 and x^2+9x+23=0. 8=0 is not true, and the answer of x 2 + 9 x + 23 = 0 x^2+9x+23=0 is a complex solution.
Where the only real answer is from 2 x + 9 = 0 2x+9=0 , the answer is x = -(9÷2). => (-4.5).
if I was wrong in something, please tell me.
Glad I can help.



( X + 1 ) ( X + 2 ) ( X + 3 ) ( X + 4 ) = ( X + 5 ) ( X + 6 ) ( X + 7 ) ( X + 8 ) ( X 2 + 5 X + 4 ) ( X 2 + 5 X + 6 ) = ( X 2 + 13 X + 40 ) ( X 2 + 13 X + 42 ) L e t M = X 2 + 9 X , a n d N = M + 23......... N o t e : 9 = 1 2 ( 5 + 13 ) , 23 = 1 4 ( 4 + 6 + 40 + 42 ) ( M 4 ) ( M 6 ) = ( M + 4 ) ( M + 6 ) 24 M = 24 M , M = 0 , X = 0 O r X 2 + 9 = 0 , B u t X 0 , s o X = 4.5. A l s o ( N 4 X 19 ) ( N 4 X 17 ) = ( N + 4 X + 19 ) ( N + 4 X + 17 ) N ( 8 X + 34 + 34 X ) = N ( 8 X + 34 + 34 X ) N = 0. T h a t i s X 2 + 9 X + 23 = 0. B u t t h e s e r o o t s a r e n o t r e a l . (X+1)(X+2)(X+3)(X+4)=(X+5)(X+6)(X+7)(X+8) \\ \therefore\ (X^2+5X+4)(X^2+5X+6)=(X^2+13X+40)(X^2+13X+42)\\ Let M=X^2+9X,\ \ \ \ and\ \ \ \ N=M+23.........Note:-\ 9=\frac 1 2 *(5+13),\ \ \ 23=\frac 1 4 (4+6+40+42)\\ \therefore\ (M-4)(M-6)=(M+4)(M+6) \ \ \ \therefore\ -24M=24M,\ \ \ \therefore\ M=0, \implies \ X=0\ \ Or\ \ X^2+9=0,\\ But\ X\neq\ 0, so\ \color{#D61F06}{X=\ -\ 4.5.}\\ Also\ (N-4X-19) (N-4X-17)= (N+4X+19) (N+4X+17) \ \ \therefore\ -N(8X+34+34X)=N(8X+34+34X)\ \implies\ N=0.\\ That\ is \ X^2\ +9X+23=0.\ \ But\ these \ roots\ are\ not\ real.

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