Order of a subgroup

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Let G G be a group with order 20, and H H a non- abelian subgroup of G G .

Assuming H G H \neq G , what is the order of H H ?


The answer is 10.

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2 solutions

Patrick Corn
Jun 30, 2016

The only possible orders are (proper) divisors of 20 , 20, which are 1 , 2 , 4 , 5 , 10. 1,2,4,5,10. All groups of order 1 , 2 , 4 , 5 1,2,4,5 are abelian. 1 1 is trivial, and any group of prime order must be cyclic, generated by any nontrivial element. The fact that groups of order 4 4 are abelian is slightly more complicated, but essentially follows from writing down the possible multiplication tables.

That leaves 10 . \fbox{10}. For an example of this in action, let G = D 10 , G = D_{10}, the group of rotations and reflections of a regular 10 10 -gon, and let H = D 5 , H = D_5, the group of rotations and reflections of a regular pentagon. Then H H is a subgroup of G G (consider the rotations/reflections which fix an inscribed pentagon), and H = 10 , G = 20 , |H|=10,|G|=20, and H H is nonabelian.

Why subgroup of order 4 is abelian ?????

Kushal Bose - 4 years, 11 months ago

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The order of an element is 1,2, or 4 by Lagrange's theorem . The three nontrivial elements have order 2 or 4. If 4, then the group is cyclic and hence abelian. So every nontrivial element has order 2. Take two of them, a a and b . b. Then a b ab can't be 1 1 (because a a would equal b b ) or a a (because b b would equal 1 1 ) or b b (because a a would equal 1 1 ) so it must be the fourth element. The same argument shows that b a ba has to be the fourth element. So a b = b a . ab=ba. But this is true for any two nontrivial elements, so all the elements commute with each other.

More generally, any group of order p 2 p^2 is abelian. This follows from two lemmas:

(1) The center Z ( G ) Z(G) of a p p -group is nontrivial.

(2) If G / Z ( G ) G/Z(G) is cyclic, then G G is abelian.

Patrick Corn - 4 years, 11 months ago
Ariijit Dey
Jun 17, 2018

I am new to group theory; here's what I thought For a group G G to be abelian, a b = b a ab=ba is a necessity for all a a and b b \in G G or b = a 1 b a b=a^{-1}ba ; for each a a if there is a b b such that a b = b a ab=ba then take either of a a or b b in the set H H It follows from the arguement that H 10 \mid H\mid \leq 10 ,however that hardly proves the answer to be 10

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