Parabola Magnetic Field

A wire in the shape of the curve y = x 2 y = x^2 carries a current I . I. It also contains some horizontal, semi-infinite segments.

The magnitude of the magnetic flux density ( B ) (B) at the point ( x , y ) = ( 0 , 1 ) (x,y) = (0,1) is B = α μ 0 I 4 π . B = \alpha \, \frac{\mu_0 \, I}{4 \pi}. If α \alpha is a positive real number, what is its value?


The answer is 3.4221.

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2 solutions

Mark Hennings
May 7, 2018

The magnetic field due to a charge q q moving with velocity v \mathbf{v} at a point with displacement r \mathbf{r} from the particle is μ 0 4 π q v r r 3 \frac{\mu_0}{4\pi} \frac{q\mathbf{v} \wedge \mathbf{r}}{|\mathbf{r}|^3} Thus the magnetic field due to a current I I running along a curve C C at a point P P with displacement r \mathbf{r} is B P = μ 0 I 4 π C d s ( r s ) r s 3 \mathbf{B}_P \; = \; \frac{\mu_0I}{4\pi}\int_C \frac{d\mathbf{s} \wedge (\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{s})}{|\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{s}|^3} Thus there is no magnetic field at the point ( 0 , 1 ) (0,1) due to the semi-infinite straight segments of wire. To integrate along the parabolic curve, we adopt the parametrization s = ( t , t 2 ) \mathbf{s} = (t,t^2) for 1 t 1 -1 \le t \le 1 , and obtain the magnetic field B ( 0 , 1 ) = μ 0 I 4 π 1 1 1 + t 2 ( t 2 + ( 1 t 2 ) 2 ) 3 2 d t k \mathbf{B}_{(0,1)} \; = \; \frac{\mu_0I}{4\pi} \int_{-1}^1 \frac{1 + t^2}{\big(t^2 + (1-t^2)^2\big)^{\frac32}}\,dt \;\mathbf{k} where k \mathbf{k} is a unit vector perpendicular to the plane. Thus α = 1 1 1 + t 2 ( t 2 + ( 1 t 2 ) 2 ) 3 2 d t = 3.42211 \alpha \; = \; \int_{-1}^1 \frac{1 + t^2}{\big(t^2 + (1-t^2)^2\big)^{\frac32}}\,dt \; = \; \boxed{3.42211} after a numerical evaluation of the integral.

Thank you..

Elijah Flechter - 3 years, 1 month ago

@Mark Hennings , @Steven Chase

Can't i apply Biot Savart law to a current element i d l idl on the parabola at an angle θ \theta from vertical lying on the parabola

d B = μ 0 i ( d l × r ) 4 π r 3 \large\ \vec { dB } =\frac { { \mu }_{ 0 }i\left( \vec { dl } \times \vec { r } \right) }{ 4\pi { r }^{ 3 } } ?

Priyanshu Mishra - 3 years, 1 month ago

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Yes indeed. Summing these contributions over the whole wire is my second equation...

Mark Hennings - 3 years, 1 month ago

what is this. Gcse doesn't cover it

Charlie Shank - 3 years, 1 month ago

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GCSE would definitely not cover this. Electromagnetism, and its presentation in what is called vector calculus, is mostly taught at university.

Mark Hennings - 3 years, 1 month ago

Why can't I downvote this problem for not containing enough information for the uninitiated to solve it? fu

S I - 3 years, 1 month ago

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It's a Biot-Savart application, albeit an advanced one

Steven Chase - 3 years, 1 month ago

In the integral the numerator should be 1+2t . You are summing up the field due to x and y of the wire. So 1 is ok but the other t^2 should be replaced by 2t . As y=t^2 and so dy = 2t dt . . So the integral will just reduce to 1/ the denominator ( As the denominator is an even function and numerator will be an odd function). If I am wrong please correct me.

Arghyadeep Chatterjee - 3 years, 1 month ago

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No. We have s = ( t t 2 0 ) d s = ( 1 2 t 0 ) d t r s = ( t 1 t 2 0 ) \mathbf{s} \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c} t \\ t^2 \\ 0 \end{array}\right) \hspace{1cm} d\mathbf{s} \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c} 1 \\ 2t \\ 0 \end{array}\right)\,dt \hspace{1cm} \mathbf{r}-\mathbf{s} \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c} -t \\ 1-t^2 \\ 0 \end{array}\right) and so r s 3 = ( t 2 + ( 1 t 2 ) 2 ) 3 2 |\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{s}|^3 = \big(t^2 +(1-t^2)^2\big)^{\frac32} and d s ( r s ) = ( 1 2 t 0 ) ( t 1 t 2 0 ) d t = ( 0 0 1 t 2 + 2 t 2 ) d t = ( 1 + t 2 ) k d\mathbf{s} \wedge (\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{s}) \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c} 1 \\ 2t \\ 0 \end{array}\right)\wedge \left(\begin{array}{c} -t \\ 1-t^2 \\ 0 \end{array}\right) \,dt \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c} 0 \\ 0 \\ 1-t^2 + 2t^2\end{array}\right)\,dt \; = \; (1 + t^2)\mathbf{k}

Mark Hennings - 3 years, 1 month ago

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Ok . I understood my mistake . I saw Joseph Newton's solution and it cleared it up.

Arghyadeep Chatterjee - 3 years, 1 month ago
Joseph Newton
May 11, 2018

This solution is written by me, a person who knows very little about this sort of physics. I just wanted to show a way of solving this question that did not require any knowledge of magnetism or vectors, and simply involved me looking up a formula and doing a lot of probably unnecessary problem solving.

Searching around online, I found this website , which states this formula: d B = μ I sin θ 4 π R 2 d L dB=\frac{\mu I\sin\theta}{4\pi R^2}dL d L dL is the length of an arbitrarily small part of the wire, R R is the distance of that part of the wire from the point we are calculating the magnetic flux of, and θ \theta is the angle from the part of the wire to the point. Integrating this for the length of the wire, we will get the answer.

It is clear to see that for the straight section of the wire, θ = 0 \theta=0 , and therefore the straight section will have no impact on the magnetic flux.

Now let us get everything in terms of x. d L dL is a length of wire, so it can be found by the Pythagorean theorem: d L = ( d x ) 2 + ( d y ) 2 But since y = x 2 , d y = 2 x d x So d L = ( d x ) 2 + ( 2 x d x ) 2 d L = 1 + 4 x 2 d x dL=\sqrt{(dx)^2+(dy)^2}\\ \text{But since }y=x^2,dy=2xdx\\ \text{So }dL=\sqrt{(dx)^2+(2xdx)^2}\\ dL=\sqrt{1+4x^2}dx R will be the distance from a point ( x , y ) (x,y) on the curve to the point ( 0 , 1 ) (0,1) , which equals: R = x 2 + ( y 1 ) 2 = x 2 + ( x 2 1 ) 2 = x 4 x 2 + 1 \begin{aligned}R&=\sqrt{x^2+(y-1)^2}\\ &=\sqrt{x^2+(x^2-1)^2}\\ &=\sqrt{x^4-x^2+1}\end{aligned} Finding θ \theta in terms of x is more tedious. We know that for a point ( x , y ) (x,y) on the curve, the slope of the tangent line is 2 x 2x , and the slope of the line from the point to ( 0 , 1 ) (0,1) is y 1 x 0 = x 2 1 x \frac{y-1}{x-0}=\frac{x^2-1}{x} . Therefore θ \theta is just the difference between these two angles: θ = tan 1 ( 2 x ) tan 1 ( x 2 1 x ) sin θ = sin tan 1 ( 2 x ) cos tan 1 ( x 2 1 x ) sin tan 1 ( 2 x ) cos tan 1 ( x 2 1 x ) = 2 x 1 + 4 x 2 x x 2 + ( x 2 1 ) 2 x 2 1 x 2 + ( x 2 1 ) 2 1 1 + 4 x 2 = x 2 + 1 1 + 4 x 2 x 4 x 2 + 1 \begin{aligned}\theta&=\tan^{-1}\left(2x\right)-\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{x^2-1}{x}\right)\\ \sin\theta&=\sin\tan^{-1}\left(2x\right)\cos\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{x^2-1}{x}\right)-\sin\tan^{-1}\left(2x\right)\cos\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{x^2-1}{x}\right)\\ &=\frac{2x}{\sqrt{1+4x^2}}\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+(x^2-1)^2}}-\frac{x^2-1}{\sqrt{x^2+(x^2-1)^2}}\frac{1}{\sqrt{1+4x^2}}\\ &=\frac{x^2+1}{\sqrt{1+4x^2}\sqrt{x^4-x^2+1}}\end{aligned} Putting these together, we can integrate and find a value for B: d B = μ I sin θ 4 π R 2 d L = μ I 4 π ( x 4 x 2 + 1 ) x 2 + 1 1 + 4 x 2 x 4 x 2 + 1 1 + 4 x 2 d x = μ I ( x 2 + 1 ) 4 π ( x 4 x 2 + 1 ) 3 2 d x B = μ I 4 π 1 1 x 2 + 1 ( x 4 x 2 + 1 ) 3 2 d x μ I 4 π × 3.4221 \begin{aligned}dB&=\frac{\mu I\sin\theta}{4\pi R^2}dL\\ &=\frac{\mu I}{4\pi (x^4-x^2+1)}\frac{x^2+1}{\sqrt{1+4x^2}\sqrt{x^4-x^2+1}}\sqrt{1+4x^2}dx\\ &=\frac{\mu I(x^2+1)}{4\pi (x^4-x^2+1)^\frac{3}{2}}dx\\ B&=\frac{\mu I}{4\pi}\int_{-1}^1\frac{x^2+1}{(x^4-x^2+1)^\frac{3}{2}}dx\\ &\approx\frac{\mu I}{4\pi}\times3.4221\end{aligned} Therefore α = 3.4221 \alpha=\boxed{3.4221}

Maybe using the Biot-Savart law would be easier :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law

Djordje Marjanovic - 3 years, 1 month ago

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