Perfect Squares!!

Let N N be a positive integer, and X = 8 N 1 X = 8N - 1 .

For how many N N is X X a perfect square?


The answer is 0.

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A number of form 4 t 1 4t-1 or 4 t + 3 4t+3 can never be a perfect square.

Case I : \textbf{Case I :} when N N is even-

N N = 2k for some integer k.

Then X X can re-written as 4 a 1 4a-1 (where a = 4 k a = 4k ) which is not a perfect square.

Case 2 : \textbf{Case 2 :} when N N is odd-

N N = 2 j + 1 2j+1 for some integer j.

Then X X can re-written as 4 b + 3 4b+3 (where b = 4 j + 1 b = 4j+1 ) which is not a perfect square.

Hence for any positive integer N N , X X cannot be a perfect square.

did it the same way.... upvoted !

Vaibhav Prasad - 6 years, 2 months ago

Can you write the proof that any number in the form 4 t 1 4t-1 or 4 t + 3 4t+3 can never be a perfect square ?

Abhisek Mohanty - 6 years, 2 months ago

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HINT: Try mod4.

Harsh Shrivastava - 6 years, 1 month ago

Only numbers in the form of 4 k or 4 k + 1 4k \text{ or } 4k + 1 can be a perfect square.

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James Bacon - 2 years, 6 months ago

If a number can be written in the form 4K+3 then it follows that it can also be written in the form 4j-1 where j=K+1

Randall Wills - 5 years, 8 months ago
Aran Pasupathy
Apr 27, 2015

If 8N-1 is to be a perfect square, then either (8N-1)≡ 0 mod 4 or (8N-1)≡ 1 mod 4.

So either 8N≡ 1 mod 4 or 8N≡ 2 mod 4.

But the former is not possible since it implies that 8N is odd.

The implication of the latter is that 8N leaves a remainder of 2 when divided by 4, which is not possible since any multiple of 8 is a multiple of 4.

Thus, since 8N is congruent to neither 1 mod 4 nor 2 mod 4, there are no integer values for N such that 8N-1 is a perfect square.

Randall Wills
Oct 4, 2015

The result that is needed is that the square of an odd integer is always of the firm 8j+1, where j is an integer. To prove this let X be an odd integer. Set X=2k+1 where k is an integer Squaring X we obtain after factoring the first two terms 4k(k+1)+1 Since k and k+1 are consecutive integers, their product is divisible by 2 and hence the form of the square of an odd integer is 8j+1. Since the difference of 8j+1 and 8s-1 is never 0 for any choice of integers j and s, these integers are not equivalent module 8. Thus an integer cannot simultaneously have both forms. Thus the answer is 0.

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