Pi Day Special

Consider two point-like balls with masses m m and M M placed as in the figure, where the larger ball is given an initial velocity towards the smaller ball. The balls will move along the positive x x -axis and collide with each other at every encounter, with the smaller ball repeatedly reflecting off of the vertical wall located at x = 0. x = 0.

If M = 1 0 8 m , M=10^{8}m, what is the total number of hits in the system—the sum of the ball-ball collisions and the ball-wall collisions?

Assume that each collision is absolutely elastic and that gravitational forces are negligible.


The answer is 31415.

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2 solutions

Daniel Xiang
Mar 14, 2018

The number of hits in the system actually has a very interesting connection with π \pi .

Let Π ( n ) \Pi(n) denote the number of hits in the system if

M = 10 0 n m M=100^n m

then Π ( 0 ) = 3 \Pi(0)=3 , Π ( 1 ) = 31 \Pi(1)=31 , Π ( 2 ) = 314 \Pi(2)=314 , Π ( 3 ) = 3141 \Pi(3)=3141 , Π ( 4 ) = 31415 \Pi(4)=31415 , and so on.

The number of hits coincide with the first n + 1 n+1 decimal digits of π \pi

What is the answer after all?!

Mondira Das - 3 years, 2 months ago

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It's 31415

Daniel Xiang - 3 years, 2 months ago

@Daniel Xiang , can you tell some books for Physics from where you take these good problems?

Priyanshu Mishra - 3 years, 2 months ago

Can you explain it more extensively? Thanks

Vittorio Bertoletti - 3 years, 2 months ago

This problem is based on a paper authored by Gregory Galperin, "Playing Pool With π (The number π from a billiard point of view)", REGULAR AND CHAOTIC DYNAMICS, V. 8, №4, 2003. It can be found here http://www.turpion.org/php/paper.phtml?journal id=rd&paper id=252 or elsewhere on the WEB. (The Figure presented in the problem is cut-and-paste from Figure 1 of the paper. We may have a copyright problem here.)

Laszlo Mihaly - 3 years, 2 months ago

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Thanks for the precisions! The link appears not to be working, a better one is this one , found on the same website.

Filip Rázek - 3 years, 2 months ago

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I fixed my link. Thanks.

Laszlo Mihaly - 3 years, 2 months ago

The number of collisions is always an odd number (except if there is an extreme coincidence with the velocities). Therefore Π ( 2 ) = 314 \Pi(2)=314 must be incorrect. Indeed, for M=10000m a simple computer program yields 313 collisions.

Laszlo Mihaly - 3 years, 2 months ago

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This is not true. In the notation of my solution to your posted problem, there will be n n ball-ball collisions if ( 2 n 1 ) α < π ( 2 n + 1 ) π (2n-1)\alpha \; < \; \pi \; \le \; (2n+1)\pi where tan α = m M \tan\alpha = \sqrt{\tfrac{m}{M}} . In the subcase that 2 n α < π ( 2 n + 1 ) π 2n\alpha < \pi \le (2n+1)\pi , the m m particle will hit the wall, but not the M M particle after the n n th ball-ball collision, so that there will be 2 n 2n collisions altogether.

As a concrete example, suppose that m = 4 M m = 4M , so that tan α = 2 \tan\alpha = 2 . Then 1 3 π < α < 1 2 π \tfrac13\pi < \alpha < \tfrac12\pi , so 2 α < π < 3 α 2\alpha < \pi < 3\alpha , and my formula says that there should be 2 2 collisions. Before the first collision, the M M particle has velocity v v , and the m m particle has velocity 0 0 , towards the wall. After the first ball-ball collision, the M M particle has velocity 3 5 v -\tfrac35v , and the m m particle has velocity 2 5 v \tfrac25v , towards the wall.. After the ball-wall collision, the particles have velocities 3 5 v -\tfrac35v , 2 5 v -\tfrac25v towards the wall, and so the m m particle will not catch up with the M M particle as it heads away from the wall. There have been exactly 2 2 collisions.

After the final ball-ball collision, the M M particle will always be headed away from the wall (since ( 2 n + 1 ) α π (2n+1)\alpha \ge \pi , 2 n α > 1 2 π 2n\alpha > \tfrac12\pi , and so cos 2 n α < 0 \cos2n\alpha < 0 ). The m m particle might have velocity away from the wall (and therefore not hit the wall again), but it might have velocity towards the wall, and hit the wall, but not bounce back fast enough to catch the M M particle.

Mark Hennings - 3 years, 2 months ago

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You are right, my sweeping statement is not true.

Laszlo Mihaly - 3 years, 2 months ago
Mark Hennings
Mar 28, 2018

Referring to my solution to what is basically the same problem , there will be a total of n n collisions (either ball-ball or ball-wall) provided that n α < π ( n + 1 ) α n\alpha \; < \; \pi\; \le \; (n+1)\alpha where tan α = m M \tan\alpha = \sqrt{\tfrac{m}{M}} . In this case α = tan 1 1 0 4 \alpha = \tan^{-1}10^{-4} and π α \tfrac{\pi}{\alpha} is not an integer, and so the number of collisions is π α = 31415 \lfloor \tfrac{\pi}{\alpha} \rfloor = \boxed{31415} .

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