Picky Baggy

From a bag containing red and blue balls, two are removed at random, one at a time without replacement. The probability that they are different colors is 1 2 . \frac{1}{2}.

What is the minimum possible number of balls initially contained in the bag?

1 4 9 16 25 36 None of the above

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3 solutions

Stephen Brown
Dec 12, 2017

Let the number of red balls be r r and the number of blue balls be b b , with the total being r + b = n r+b=n balls. Then the probability of choosing a red then a blue would be r n b n 1 \frac{r}{n}\frac{b}{n-1} ; likewise, the probability of choosing blue then red would be b n r n 1 \frac{b}{n}\frac{r}{n-1} . Adding these together we get the total probability of choosing a different color as

2 r b n ( n 1 ) \frac{2rb}{n(n-1)}

Setting this equal to 1 2 \frac{1}{2} and rearranging, we get

r b = n ( n 1 ) 4 rb=\frac{n(n-1)}{4}

Since r r and b b are integers, we must have that n ( n 1 ) 4 \frac{n(n-1)}{4} is also an integer. The smallest n n for which this holds is n = 4 \boxed{n=4} , which satisfies the problem by setting ( r , b ) = ( 1 , 3 ) (r,b)=(1,3)

Arjen Vreugdenhil
Dec 12, 2017

Let R R be the number of red balls and B B the number of blue balls. The probability that drawing two results in 1 red, 1 blue is P = ( R 1 ) ( B 1 ) ( R + B 2 ) = R B 1 2 ( R + B ) ( R + B 1 ) . \mathbb P = \frac{\binom R 1 \binom B 1}{\binom {R+B} 2} = \frac{RB}{\tfrac12(R+B)(R+B-1)}. This should be equal to 1 2 \tfrac12 . Thus 1 2 ( R + B ) ( R + B 1 ) = 2 R B \tfrac12(R+B)(R+B-1) = 2RB R 2 + B 2 + 2 R B R B = 4 R B R^2+B^2+2RB-R-B = 4RB R 2 + B 2 2 R B = R + B R^2 + B^2 - 2RB = R + B ( R B ) 2 = R + B . (R - B)^2 = R+B. Thus the difference of R R and B B is the square of their sum . We try the smallest possible combinations: 1 2 = 1 R B = 1 , R + B = 1 , R = 1 , B = 0 ; 1^2 = 1\ \ \ \ \therefore\ \ \ \ R - B = 1, R + B = 1, R = 1, B = 0; this fails because there must be at least two balls in the bag. 2 2 = 4 R B = 2 , R + B = 4 , R = 3 , B = 1 2^2 = 4\ \ \ \ \therefore\ \ \ \ R - B = 2, R + B = 4, R = 3, B = 1 showing that we can make this work with four balls \boxed{\text{four balls}} : three red and one blue, or vice versa. The next possible solution would be 3 2 = 9 R B = 3 , R + B = 9 , R = 6 , B = 3 3^2 = 9\ \ \ \ \therefore\ \ \ \ R - B = 3, R + B = 9, R = 6, B = 3 and so on.

Check: P = ( 3 1 ) ( 1 1 ) ( 4 2 ) = 3 1 6 = 1 2 \mathbb P = \frac{\binom 3 1 \binom 1 1}{\binom 4 2} = \frac{3\cdot 1}{6} = \frac12 as desired.

It appears the "binom" LaTeX \LaTeX equation is not parsed. Please check!

Michael Huang - 3 years, 6 months ago

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I missed a closing curly bracket at the end of the LaTeX \LaTeX code. Fixed!

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 3 years, 6 months ago

Are you kidding me? This should be LEVEL 1.

Minimum possible is 4 (as per the options given) as with 4 balls you can visualize an outcome where you take a red one out and then a blue one out or vice versa. You need not perform laborious calculations.

The Level is usually off like this when questions are not answered, or when it seems to be difficult.

If this problem were to be selected, then the difficulty will be more likely down to Lvl 1 due to number of people trying out.

Even surprising, some Lvl 4-5 problems can be downed to Lvl 2-3 if they were to be popular or selected.

Michael Huang - 3 years, 5 months ago

How do you immediately know the answer cannot be 1, 2 or 3?

Pi Han Goh - 3 years, 5 months ago

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Because I am smarter than you are.

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 5 months ago

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