Play-Doh-Nut

Geometry Level 1

Above is an imagine of a two holed torus with an infinitely long pole through it.

On the left side we have the pole going through one hole and on the right we have the pole going through two holes.

Is it possible to deform the torus with the pole going through one hole so it becomes the torus with the pole going through both holes?


Details: The pole is rigid and cannot be moved. It is also impossible to slide the torus off the edge of it, it's infinitely long.

The torus is made of a Play-Doh like material. It can stretch but it cannot be ripped, you cannot stick two pieces of it together, you cannot pass it through itself and holes cannot be created or destroyed.

To show you what is allowed, here is an example of a donut (one holed torus) deforming into a coffee cup.

Yes Nobody knows Impossible to determine No

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2 solutions

Isaac Buckley
Jan 21, 2016

I will explain each step, it might be hard to see what voodoo is happening.

1. 1. We shirnk one of the holes and enlarge the other hole.

2. 2. We slide the smaller hole along the pole untill it is inline with the bigger hole.

3. 3. We shrink the big hole and notice the pole no longer goes through it...

Thus it is shown that they can be deformed into eachother.


In my question I asked "Is it possible to deform the torus with the pole going through one hole so it becomes the torus with the pole going through both holes?" but I showed in my picture that the torus with a pole through two holes can be deformed into a torus with a pole through one hole. This is alright since each step in my picture is reversible which makes the two statements equivalent.

What happens if we consider an n n holed torus?

I'm really not sure about this solution...

Wonseok Song - 5 years, 4 months ago

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What do you think is wrong with it?

Isaac Buckley - 5 years, 4 months ago

I'm a bit confused about step 3. I would have thought the pole does still got through it?

Fin Moorhouse - 5 years, 4 months ago

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This is showing some extra steps, does it make sense to you now?

Isaac Buckley - 5 years, 4 months ago

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Thanks very much, that clears it up!

Fin Moorhouse - 5 years, 4 months ago

I had problems visualising all this, so I got out the Play-Doh and a coat hanger... https://youtu.be/Y5Mnxu3gKCo

Renny Barrett - 5 years, 4 months ago

How does one analyse general questions of this form?

Agnishom Chattopadhyay - 5 years, 4 months ago

That was amazing! I wish you provide more such logical problems :D

Zeeshan Ali - 5 years, 4 months ago

Great stuff man!

Antonio-Gabriel Sturzu - 5 years, 4 months ago

819it is wrong. In step 4, the large ring will actually still be fastened in the pole. Try to imagine more carefully.

Abhilasha Supe - 4 years, 3 months ago
Jason Chrysoprase
Jan 22, 2016

Just shrink the left side and enlarge the right side, make the left side go in, pull the pole out of the left or right, nake it at the sane large. Done

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