Polynomials

Algebra Level 5

Johanz says to Sandra, "I am thinking of a polynomial whose roots are all positive integers. The polynomial has the form P ( x ) = 2 x 3 2 a x 2 + ( a 2 81 ) x c P(x)=2x^3-2ax^2+(a^2-81)x-c for some positive integers a a and c c . Can you tell me the values of a a and c c ?"

After some calculations, Sandra says, "There is more than one such polynomial."

Johanz says, "You’re right. Here is the value of a a ." He writes down a positive integer and asks, "Can you tell me the value of c c ?"

Sandra says, "There are still two possible values of c c ."

Find the sum of the two possible values of c c .


The answer is 440.

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2 solutions

Johanz Piedad
Sep 12, 2015

Let’s say the polynomial has roots p p , q q , and r r . By Vieta’s Formulas, the sum of the roots p + q + r = ( 2 a ) 2 = a p + q + r = \frac{-(-2a)}{2} = a . Similarly, the sum of the products of each pair of roots p q + p r + q r = a 2 81 2 pq + pr + qr = \frac{a^2 - 81}{2} . Since a = p + q + r a = p + q + r , a 2 = p 2 + q 2 + r 2 + 2 p q + 2 p r + 2 q r a^2 = p^2 + q^2 + r^2 + 2pq + 2pr + 2qr . We can eliminate the 2 p q + 2 p r + 2 q r 2pq + 2pr + 2qr since it equals a 2 81 a^2 - 81 : a 2 = p 2 + q 2 + r 2 + a 2 81 a^2 = p^2 + q^2 + r^2 + a^2 - 81 \rightarrow p 2 + q 2 + r 2 = 81 p^2 + q^2 + r^2 = 81 . Without Loss of Generality, suppose that p q r p \ge q \ge r . Trial and error gives the triples ( p , q , r ) (p, q, r) : ( 8 , 4 , 1 ) , ( 7 , 4 , 4 ) , ( 6 , 6 , 3 ) (8, 4, 1), (7, 4, 4), (6, 6, 3) . Since there is a given value of a a , the two triples selected must be ( 7 , 4 , 4 ) (7, 4, 4) and ( 6 , 6 , 3 ) (6, 6, 3) because 7 + 4 + 4 = 15 = 6 + 6 + 3 7 + 4 + 4 = 15 = 6 + 6 + 3 . a a directly follows to be 15 15 . But we need to find the sum of the values of c c : Vieta’s formulas again show that c = 2 (roots) c = 2\cdot \prod \text{(roots)} . The requested sum is therefore 2 [ 7 4 4 + 6 6 3 ] = 2 ( 112 + 108 ) = 2 220 = 440 2 \cdot [7 \cdot 4 \cdot 4 + 6 \cdot 6 \cdot 3] = 2 \cdot (112 + 108) = 2 \cdot 220 = \boxed{440} .

I think this question is nice as a = 15 is the first integer smaller than 9 3 . \sqrt3. Specification for positive a a and positive c c made it good, but to give no ambiguity, the question can mention a positive c c separately to be more precise. It is harder to think of (4, 4, 7) and (3, 6, 6) than (1, 4, 8). Not too hard but headache making.

Lu Chee Ket - 5 years, 6 months ago
Billy Sugiarto
Sep 14, 2015

I thought this is problem 6 of 2015 AIME II.

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