Polynomials of polynomials

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Let f f be a (possibly constant) polynomial such that for all real x x :

f ( f ( x ) + f ( x ) ) = 9 f ( x 2 ) f(f(x) + f(-x)) = 9f(x^2)

The largest possible value of f ( 9 ) f(9) can be expressed as a b \frac{a}{b} where a a and b b are coprime positive integers. Find a b ab .


The answer is 486.

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1 solution

Ben Frankel
Dec 19, 2013

Since we are dealing with polynomials, let's try to find the degree. Define d = deg ( f ) d = \deg(f)

deg ( f ( f ( x ) + f ( x ) ) ) = deg ( f ( f ( x ) ) ) = d 2 \deg(f(f(x) + f(-x))) = \deg(f(f(x))) = d^2

deg ( 9 f ( x 2 ) ) = deg ( f ( x 2 ) ) = 2 d \deg(9f(x^2)) = \deg(f(x^2)) = 2d

For this equation to be true for all real x x , we must have d 2 = 2 d d ( d 2 ) = 0 d^2 = 2d \Rightarrow d(d - 2) = 0 and thus,

deg ( f ) = 0 , 2 \deg(f) = 0, 2

We are dealing with either a constant or a quadratic. Let us assume the latter, but keep in mind that f f could be constant and so the leading coefficient could be 0 0 . We can now define f ( x ) = a x 2 + b x + c f(x) = ax^2 + bx + c , and we will start with the LHS (left-hand side):

f ( ( a x 2 + b x + c ) + ( a x 2 b x + c ) ) = f ( 2 a x 2 + 2 c ) f((ax^2 + bx + c) + (ax^2 - bx + c)) = f(2ax^2 + 2c)

= a ( 2 a x 2 + 2 c ) 2 + b ( 2 a x 2 + 2 c ) + c = a(2ax^2 + 2c)^2 + b(2ax^2 + 2c) + c

= ( 4 a 3 ) x 4 + ( 8 a 2 c + 2 a b ) x 2 + ( 4 a c 2 + 2 b c + c ) = (4a^3)x^4 + (8a^2c + 2ab)x^2 + (4ac^2 + 2bc + c)

And the RHS (right-hand side):

9 ( a ( x 2 ) 2 + b ( x 2 ) + c ) = ( 9 a ) x 4 + ( 9 b ) x 2 + ( 9 c ) 9(a(x^2)^2 + b(x^2) + c) = (9a)x^4 + (9b)x^2 + (9c)

If both sides are to be equal over all x x , the coefficients must be equal, so we get:

4 a 3 = 9 a a ( 4 a 2 9 ) = 0 a ( 2 a 3 ) ( 2 a + 3 ) = 0 a = 0 , ± 3 2 4a^3 = 9a \Rightarrow a(4a^2 - 9) = 0 \Rightarrow a(2a - 3)(2a + 3) = 0 \Rightarrow a = 0, \pm\frac{3}{2}

8 a 2 c + 2 a b = 9 b 8a^2c + 2ab = 9b

4 a c 2 + 2 b c + c = 9 c 4ac^2 + 2bc + c = 9c

So we have ( a , b , c ) = ( 0 , 0 , 0 ) , ( ± 3 2 , 0 , 0 ) (a, b, c) = (0, 0, 0), (\pm\frac{3}{2}, 0, 0) as the only possible coefficients. The first one ( 0 , 0 , 0 ) (0, 0, 0) is just a constant f ( x ) = 0 f(x) = 0 , and so we now have the only three polynomials that satisfy the original equation. The maximum value of f ( 9 ) f(9) is from the coefficients ( 3 2 , 0 , 0 ) (\frac{3}{2}, 0, 0) giving:

max ( f ( 9 ) ) = 3 2 9 2 = 3 81 2 = 243 2 \max(f(9)) = \frac{3}{2}9^2 = \frac{3*81}{2} = \frac{243}{2}

So the answer is 243 2 = 486 243*2 = \boxed{486}

Your solution is not complete. There is another quadratic that works, namely f ( x ) = 3 2 x 2 + 2 x + 2 3 . f(x) = \frac{3}{2} x^2 + 2x + \frac{2}{3}. In this case, both f ( f ( x ) + f ( x ) ) f(f(x) + f(-x)) and 9 f ( x 2 ) 9f(x^2) are equal to 27 2 x 4 + 18 x 2 + 6. \frac{27}{2} x^4 + 18x^2 + 6. This leads to a higher value of f ( 9 ) f(9) , namely 140 1 6 140 \frac{1}{6} .

There is even a cubic that works. The coefficients are approximately f ( x ) = 0.222552 x 3 + 1.04004 x 2 + 1.62013 x + 0.841251. f(x) = 0.222552x^3 + 1.04004x^2 + 1.62013x + 0.841251. This leads to an even higher value of f ( 9 ) f(9) , though it is probably not rational.

Jon Haussmann - 7 years, 5 months ago

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You're right, my mistake.

Ben Frankel - 7 years, 5 months ago

In the first line degree of f ( x ) + f ( x ) f(x)+f(-x) can be ( d 1 ) (d-1) also if f ( x ) f(x) is of odd degree. From here we infer that d = 3 d=3 and we also get a cubic.

Ishan Singh - 7 years, 1 month ago

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