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awesome solution
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One could also use Tchebychev inequality that'd be easiest.
Par Cauchy-Shwarz C'est tellement facile.
Typo, x y + y z + z x = 3
NOTE: You may have a shorter process. This is an unconventional way of solving problems, but, i like it. So, here goes:
From the given relations, and by using Vieta's we construct a polynomial whose roots are x , y , z
P ( x ) = t 3 − 5 t 2 + 3 t + p and p is a constant.
Now we analyse it's derivative to find out the nature of the curve at different intervals. This is very important.
P ′ ( x ) = 3 x 2 − 1 0 x + p
now, observing it's roots, P ′ ( x ) ≥ 0 iff x ∈ ( − ∞ , 3 1 ) ∪ ( 3 , + ∞ ) and is negative elsewhere.
Now the positive derivative of P ( x ) signifies the increasing nature of the curve of P ( x ) .
So, P ( x ) increases on the interval ( − ∞ , 3 1 ) from − ∞ to P ( 3 1 ) = p + 2 7 1 3
and P ( x ) decreases on the interval ( 3 1 , 3 ) from P ( 3 1 ) to P ( 3 ) = p − 9
So, p + 2 7 1 3 and p − 9 signifies the local maximum and minimum respectively.
For the roots to be real, (although it isn't said, but i assumed) ,
p + 2 7 1 3 ≥ 0 and p − 9 ≤ 0
⟹ P ( 3 1 ) ≥ 0 and P ( 3 ) ≤ 0
Now, an observation that solves the problem:
NOTE THAT:
P ( − 1 ) = p − 9 ≤ 0 and P ( 3 1 3 ) = p + 2 7 1 3 ≥ 0
So, the polynomial P ( x ) changes it’s signs in the intervals:
( − 1 , 3 1 ) ; ( 3 1 , 3 ) ; ( 3 , 3 1 3 )
So, it is obvious that the roots must lie in the above intervals..
So, we have, for any root:
least possible value = − 1
greatest possible value = 3 1 3
Adding them, we get 3 1 0
OUR ANSWER: 1 3
A bonus of this solution is that, we can determine the intervals of any of the 3 roots of the polynomial at once(though it isn't required). they go as follows:
− 1 ≤ x k 1 ≤ 3 1 ≤ x k 2 ≤ 3 ≤ x k 3 ≤ 3 1 3
where x k i are the roots
yes, this was lengthy, but you cannot possible deny that this was a good solution. :D
@Parth Lohomi , what do you think?
You are absolutely correct!!
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Thanks :D ..this problem was approachable by many ways...it's a nice problem :D
Put y = z = t and then eliminate t getting 3x^2 - 10x - 13 = 0, which gives 10/3 as the sum of the two extreme real values of x, namely -1 and 13/3. The point to be noted here is that it is a convex function.
Let z = 5 − x − y and substitute into the nonlinear equation:
x y + ( 5 − x − y ) ( x + y ) = 3 ⇒ x 2 + ( y − 5 ) x + ( y 2 − 5 y + 3 ) = 0 ⇒ x = 2 ( 5 − y ) ± ( y − 5 ) 2 − 4 ( 1 ) ( y 2 − 5 y + 3 ) = 2 ( 5 − y ) ± − 3 ( y − 5 / 3 ) 2 + 1 9 2 / 9 .
The discriminant is a concave-down parabola with vertex ( 3 5 , 9 1 9 2 ) , which means the largest and smallest values for x compute to:
x = 2 ( 5 − 5 / 3 ) ± 1 9 2 / 9 = 3 5 ± 3 4 3 ,
and whose sum is ( 3 5 + 3 4 3 ) + ( 3 5 − 3 4 3 ) = 3 1 0 = n m ⇒ m + n = 1 0 + 3 = 1 3 .
APPLY AM>GM for y and z. THEN in the inequality formed place the value of x in place of y and z as per the equations given. so. on L.H.S. it becomes 5-x and on R.H.S. , square root of x^2 - 5x +3 solve and get yur answer upvote the solution if lioke it.
You can't apply A.M. G.M. as here x,y and z are not necessarily positive
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We've x + y + z = 5 … ( 1 ) x y + y z + z x = 3 ⇒ x 2 + y 2 + z 2 = 1 9 ⇒ x 2 + y 2 + ( 5 − x − y ) 2 = 1 9 Solving further we get, ⇒ 2 y 2 + y ( 2 x − 1 0 ) + ( 2 x 2 − 1 0 x + 6 ) = 1 0 Since y is real, determinant of this quadratic equation should be non-negative. ⇒ 4 x 2 + 1 0 0 − 4 0 x − 8 ( 2 x 2 − 1 0 x + 6 ) ≥ 0 ⇒ 3 x 2 − 1 0 x − 1 3 ≤ 0 ⇒ ( x + 1 ) ( x − 3 1 3 ) ≤ 0 ⇒ − 1 ≤ x ≤ 3 1 3 Sum is − 1 + 3 1 3 = 3 1 0 Hence answer is 1 0 + 3 = 1 3