P,Q < R

If (1+3+5+....+p) + (1+3+5+....+q) = (1+3+5+....+r) where each set of parenthesis contains the sum of consecutive odd integers as shown, and r > q > p > 6. Then the smallest possible value of p+q+r , is


The answer is 45.

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since p has to be greater than 6 the next smallest odd number is 7 so lets assume that p=7 . so we get on the RHS that r>7 . So the next greatest odd number is 9 so let us assume that r=9 . So thus by further solving we obtain that the lowest possible value of q will be 5 .

so thus,

p+q+r = 7+5+9 = 21

p = 11, q = 15, r = 19
(1+3+5+7+9+11) + (1+3+5+7+9+11+13+15) = (1+3+5+7+9+11+13+15+17+19)
100 = 100

p+q+r = 11+15+19 = 45

edmund letaba - 6 years, 10 months ago

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Thanks! I have updated the answer to 45.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 10 months ago

The answer is 45. how come the r will be smaller than p and q?

edmund letaba - 6 years, 10 months ago

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yeah i m wrong i hav by mistake interchanged the value of q and r and thanx for bringing it to my notice

Harshvardhan Mehta - 6 years, 10 months ago

(1+3+5+⋯+p)+(1+3+5+⋯+q)=(1+3+5+⋯+r) (1+p)(((1+p))/2)+(1+q)(((1+q))/2)=(1+r)(((1+r))/2) (1+p)^2/2+(1+q)^2/2=(1+r)^2/2 (1+p)^2 + (1+q)^2=(1+r)^2

Since p, q and r are odd, then (1+p), (1+q) and (1+r) are even numbers that form a pythagorean triple. The smallest such triple is 12-16-20, so it follows that p=11, q=15 and r=19. Hence, p+q+r = 11+15+19 = 45

Extended Sine Law - 6 years, 10 months ago
Jakub Bober
Aug 7, 2016

There are n + 1 2 \frac{n+1}{2} elements in the series 1 + 3 + 5 + . . . + n 1+3+5+...+n , so using the formula for the sum of the arithmetic series and a few algebraic transformations we get ( 1 + p ) 2 + ( 1 + q ) 2 + ( 1 + r ) 2 (1+p)^{2}+(1+q)^{2}+(1+r)^{2} where ( 1 + p ) , ( 1 + q ) , ( 1 + r ) (1+p),(1+q),(1+r) is a pythagorean triple. Since all three of these numbers are even, we look for a pythagorean triple of three even numbers a = 1 + p > 1 + 6 = 7 a=1+p>1+6=7 , b = 1 + q > 1 + 7 = 8 b=1+q>1+7=8 and c = 1 + r > 1 + 8 = 9 c=1+r>1+8=9 . It is a triple ( 12 , 16 , 20 ) (12,16,20) , so p + q + r = ( 12 1 ) + ( 16 1 ) + ( 20 1 ) = 45 p+q+r=(12-1)+(16-1)+(20-1)=45

Harshi Singh
Dec 28, 2015

WE CAN SOLVE THIS AS :SUM OF CONSECUTIVE ODD NUMBERS STARTING WITH 1 ALWAYS RESULTS IN SQUARES AND BY PYTHOGORUS THEOREM THE SMALLEST PAIR IS 3,4,5 BUT HERE P WILL BE SMALLER THAN 6 SO WE FIND NEXT SMALLEST PAIR WHICH IS 6,8,10. THUS P=11,Q=15,R=19......CHEERS!!!!!

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