Probability #2

In a regular decagon, find the probability that two distinct diagonals chosen at random will intersect inside the polygon.

If the answer is in the form a b , \frac{a}{b}, where a a and b b are coprime positive integers, then submit a + b a+b as your answer.


The answer is 23.

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There are n ( n 3 ) 2 \dfrac{n(n - 3)}{2} diagonals for a regular polygon with n n sides, so for a decagon there are 35 35 diagonals, and thus ( 35 2 ) = 595 \dbinom{35}{2} = 595 "diagonal pairs" to consider for our sample space. Now if a diagonal pair have a shared endpoint then there can be no point of intersection strictly inside the decagon, so for a diagonal pair to have an internal point of intersection it is necessary (but not sufficient) for the diagonals to have endpoints distinct from one another.

Now choose any 4 of the 10 vertices. We can form pairs of diagonals using these vertices in a total of 3 ways, only one of which results in an internal point of intersection. In this way we account for all internally-intersecting diagonal pairs, resulting in a desired probability of ( 10 4 ) 595 = 210 595 = 6 17 \dfrac{\dbinom{10}{4}}{595} = \dfrac{210}{595} = \dfrac{6}{17} , and so p + q = 6 + 17 = 23 p + q = 6 + 17 = \boxed{23} .

Jc 506881
Jan 23, 2018

First, let's count the total diagonals in an n n -gon. A diagonal is determined by any pair of non-adjacent vertices. There are ( n 2 ) n \choose 2 total pairs of vertices, but n n of them correspond to adjacent vertices. So, an n n -gon has ( n 2 ) n {n \choose 2} - n diagonals. In particular, for the decagon, we have ( 10 2 ) 10 = 35 {10 \choose 2} - 10 = 35 diagonals.

Second, let's count the number of diagonals that intersect a given diagonal D D inside the n n -gon. Label one endpoint of D D v 1 v_1 and then consecutively label the remaining vertices of the n n -gon v 2 , . . . , v n v_2, ... , v_n . Suppose the other endpoint of D D is v k v_k , where 3 k n 1 3 \leq k \leq n - 1 . Then D D partitions the vertices into three subsets: { v 1 , v k } \{v_1, v_k\} , the endpoints of D D , V = { v 3 , . . . , v k 1 } V = \{v_3, ... , v_{k-1}\} , the vertices on one side of D D and W = { v k + 1 , . . . v n } W = \{v_{k+1}, ... v_n\} , the vertices on the other side of D D . A second diagonal intersects D D inside the n n -gon if and only if it has one endpoint in V and the other endpoint in W. V = k 2 |V| = k-2 and W = n k |W| = n - k , so there are ( k 2 ) ( n k ) (k-2)(n-k) such diagonals.

Finally, let's use these two observations to answer the question. At this point we'll use n = 10 n = 10 for the decagon although it's not hard to continue with the general case if desired. Pick a diagonal D D of the decagon and label one of its endpoints v 1 v_1 . There are seven choices v 3 , . . . , v 9 v_3, ... , v_9 for the other endpoint v k v_k . According to our second observation, the number of interior-crossing diagonals for each of these choices are:

k = 3 ( 3 2 ) ( 10 3 ) = 7 k = 3 \rightarrow (3 - 2)(10 - 3) = 7

k = 4 ( 4 2 ) ( 10 4 ) = 12 k = 4 \rightarrow (4 - 2)(10 - 4) = 12

k = 5 ( 5 2 ) ( 10 5 ) = 15 k = 5 \rightarrow (5 - 2)(10 - 5) = 15

k = 6 ( 6 2 ) ( 10 6 ) = 16 k = 6 \rightarrow (6- 2)(10 - 6) = 16

k = 7 ( 7 2 ) ( 10 7 ) = 15 k = 7 \rightarrow (7 - 2)(10 - 7) = 15

k = 8 ( 8 2 ) ( 10 8 ) = 12 k = 8 \rightarrow (8 - 2)(10 - 8) = 12

k = 9 ( 9 2 ) ( 10 9 ) = 7 k = 9 \rightarrow (9 - 2)(10 - 9) = 7

The decagon has 34 diagonals other than D D and each choice of v k v_k has probability 1 7 \frac{1}{7} , so the total probability of randomly choosing 2 interior-crossing diagonals is: 1 7 ( 7 34 + 12 34 + 15 34 + 16 34 + 15 34 + 12 34 + 7 34 ) = 84 238 = 6 17 \frac{1}{7}\left( \frac{7}{34} + \frac{12}{34} + \frac{15}{34} + \frac{16}{34} + \frac{15}{34} + \frac{12}{34} + \frac{7}{34} \right) = \frac{84}{238} = \ \frac{6}{17}

Vijay Simha
Oct 29, 2018

The general formula for this probability for an n-sided Polygon is

(n^2 - 3n + 2) / {3*(n^2 - 3n - 2)}

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