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Given a , b , c , a, b, c, and d d are four distinct natural numbers that satisfy the system of equations above.

Determine the value of a + b + c + d a+b+c+d .


The answer is 11.

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9 solutions

Josh Banister
Mar 28, 2015

If you multiply all the equations together, you get a b c × b c d × c d a × d a b = 15 × 30 × 10 × 6 a 3 b 3 c 3 d 3 = 27000 a b c d = 30 abc\times bcd \times cda \times dab = 15\times30\times10\times6 \\ a^3 b^3 c^3 d^3 = 27000 \\ abcd = 30 When you divide each equation by this result you get the respective solutions d = 2 a = 1 b = 3 c = 5 d = 2 \\ a = 1 \\ b = 3 \\ c = 5

Adding these gives a + b + c + d = 11 a+b+c+d = \boxed{11}

Nice and easy! *thumbs up

Ahmad Naufal Hakim - 6 years, 2 months ago

I saw that three equations were a multiple of five, and the only factor those three all had was C so C=5

Then the forth equation had no c, and was not a multiple of five, so the three numbers had to be 1,2,3

1+2+3+5=11

Kyle Shorette - 3 years, 8 months ago

factor LS into 3 ints:

abc = 15 = (1,3,5) bcd = 30 = (nah!) cda = 10 = (1,2,5) dab = 6 = (1,2,3)

it's obvious that 1 appears thrice, and also a, so a=1

bc = 15 bcd = 30

d = 2

cda = 10 cd = 10 c = 5

dab = 6 db = 6 b = 3

a=1, b=3, c=5, d=2 The answer is 1+3+5+2 :D

How...When did you learn that I'am 9 grade in mathematical school and I understand only the half...

Plamen Hristov - 3 years, 7 months ago
Chirag Parmar
Mar 28, 2015

Equation 4 : 6=1 2 3 so a, b , d is either of 1,2 or 3. divide eequation 2 by 3 so b/a=3 this gives b=3 , a=1 thus d=2 put values in equation 1 gives c=5. Requires quantities is 11.

Matt P
Jan 18, 2017

Using the first equation

a b c = 15 a*b*c=15

we know that a, b, & c must all be factors of 15, so 1, 3, 5, or 15.

Suppose the case where a = 1. If this is true:

1 b c = 15 1*b*c =15

b c = 15 b*c=15 .

Then using the 2nd equation

b c d = 30 b*c*d=30 , substitute in 15 15 for b c b*c

15 d = 30 15*d=30

d = 2 d=2

If d = 2 d=2 , then in the 3rd equation:

c d a = 10 c*d*a=10 ,

c 2 a = 10 c*2*a=10

c a = 5 c*a=5

Since we assumed a = 1 a=1 to start, c = 5 c=5 .

Plugging into any equation with b b , we arrive at b = 3 b=3 .

{ 1 × 3 × 5 = 15 3 × 5 × 2 = 30 5 × 2 × 1 = 10 2 × 1 × 3 = 6 \begin{cases} 1\times 3\times 5=15 \\ 3\times 5\times 2=30 \\ 5\times 2\times 1=10 \\ 2\times 1\times 3=6 \end{cases}

a + b + c + d = 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 = 11 a+b+c+d = 1+2+3+5 = 11

Hugo Murilo
Mar 28, 2015

I - cxd = 30/b

II - cxdxa = 10 --> a = b/3

III - axbxc = 15 --> (b/3)xbxc = 15 --> c = 45/b^2

IV - dxaxb = 6 --> dx(b/3)xb = 6 --> d = 18/b^2

V - cxdxa = 10 --> (45/b^2)x(18/b^2)x(b/3) = 10 --> 3b^3 = 81 --> b = 3

a = b/3 = 1

c = 45/b^2 = 5

d = 18/b^2 = 2

a + b + c + d = 11

By stating every variable into expressions of b b , you'll get the value of b b and the rest of the variables. I think it's much faster if you multiply all the given equation, and then divide them.

But really, it's just a matter of opinion of how are you going to approach a certain problem, hehe.

Ahmad Naufal Hakim - 6 years, 2 months ago

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yeah, you're right! I just showed other way to solve it.

Hugo Murilo - 6 years, 2 months ago
Sytse Durkstra
Oct 4, 2017

a × b × d = 6 a \times b \times d = 6 and a × b × c = 15 a \times b \times c = 15 , so a × b a \times b must be a factor of both 6 and 15.

  • a × b = 3 a \times b = 3
  • 3 × c = 15 3 \times c = 15 , so c = 5 c = 5
  • 3 × d = 6 3 \times d = 6 , so d = 2 d = 2
  • a × 5 × 2 = 10 a \times 5 \times 2 = 10 , so a = 1 a = 1
  • b × 5 × 2 = 30 b \times 5 \times 2 = 30 , so b = 3 b = 3

1 + 3 + 5 + 2 = 11 1 + 3 + 5 + 2 = \boxed{11}

Francesco Leoni
Aug 30, 2016

15 = 1 x 3 x 5; 30 = 1 x 2 x 3 x 5; 10 = 1 x 2 x 5; 6 = 1 x 2 x 3;

so, 1+2+3+5 = 11

Armain Labeeb
Jun 19, 2016

I tried a different way and it works. First, look at the last equation,

d a b = 6 dab=6

Only 3 distinct natural numbers satisfy this equation: 3 , 2 3,2 and 1 1 . From this we know either d , a d,a or b b equals 3 , 2 3, 2 or 1 1 .

Next, look at the third equation and the last one.

Both of them have d d and a a . Since both of the equations have an even number on the RHS, we may conclude that d × a = 2 d \times a = 2 . So, either d d or a a equals 2 2 or 1 1 .

2 × 1 = 2 2 \times 1 = 2 ---- ( I ) (I)

Substitute eqn^ ( I ) (I) into the last equation.

d a b = 6 dab=6

2 b = 6 2b=6

b = 3 b=3

Substitute eqn^ ( I ) (I) into the third equation.

c d a = 10 cda=10

2 c = 10 2c=10

c = 5 c=5

Substitute b = 3 b=3 and c = 5 c=5 into the second equation.

b c d = 30 bcd=30

3 × 5 × d = 30 3 \times 5 \times d=30

15 d = 30 15d=30

d = 2 d=2

Since d = 2 d=2 , a a must equal 1 1 .

a + b + c + d = 1 + 3 + 5 + 2 = 11 a+b+c+d=1+3+5+2= \boxed{11}

Jessica Dooper
Jun 13, 2016

I'm not sure how mathematically sound this is, but logically:

Considering the three equations with a,

a b c = 15 abc=15

a c d = 10 acd=10

a b d = 6 abd=6

a is a common factor on all of the left hand sides of the equations, so the possible values of a are the common factors of the values on the right hand sides of the equations, since a, b, c, and d are all natural numbers. The only common factor of these three numbers (15, 10, and 6) is 1. Therefore, a = 1 a=1 .

Considering the three equations with b,

a b c = 15 abc=15

a b d = 6 abd=6

b c d = 30 bcd=30

Likewise, the value of b must be a common factor of the numbers on the right hand sides of the equations. The only such common factor is 3. Therefore, b = 3 b=3 .

We know that abc=15, and since a=1 and b=3:

a b c = 15 abc=15

1 3 c = 15 1*3*c=15

3 c = 15 3c=15

c = 5 c=5

And finally:

a b d = 6 abd=6

1 3 d = 6 1*3*d=6

3 d = 6 3d=6

d = 2 d=2

So the sum of a, b, c, and d:

a + b + c + d = 1 + 3 + 5 + 2 = 11 a+b+c+d=1+3+5+2=11

Moderator note:

Because we are given that a , b , c , d a,b,c,d are 4 natural numbers, the approach of considering common factors works.

However, that is not a necessary assumption for the problem. You should look at the other solutions to understand how to approach this problem.

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