Problematic function

Algebra Level 2

If f ( x 2015 + 1 ) = x 4030 + x 2015 + 1 f(x^{2015}+1)=x^{4030}+x^{2015}+1 , then what is sum of the coefficients of f ( x 2015 1 ) ? f(x^{2015}-1)?


The answer is 1.

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Let y = x 2015 y={ x }^{ 2015 } for some real numbers x x and y y .

So, according to the given function:

f ( x 2015 + 1 ) = x 4030 + x 2015 + 1 f ( y + 1 ) = y 2 + y + 1 \quad \quad f\left( { x }^{ 2015 }+1 \right) ={ x }^{ 4030 }+{ x }^{ 2015 }+1\\ \Rightarrow f\left( y+1 \right) ={ y }^{ 2 }+y+1

Now, x 2015 1 { x }^{ 2015 }-1 can be written as ( x 2015 2 ) + 1 ({ x }^{ 2015 }-2)+1

So, f ( ( x 2015 2 ) + 1 ) f ( ( y 2 ) + 1 ) = ( y 2 ) 2 + ( y 2 ) + 1 f ( y 1 ) = ( y 2 + 4 4 y ) + ( y 2 ) + 1 f ( y 1 ) = y 2 + 3 3 y f ( x 2015 1 ) = x 4030 3 ( x 2015 ) + 3 \Rightarrow f(({ x }^{ 2015 }-2)+1)\\ \Rightarrow f\left( (y-2)+1 \right) \quad =\quad { (y-2) }^{ 2 }+(y-2)+1\\ \Rightarrow f\left( y-1 \right) \quad =\quad ({ y }^{ 2 }+4-4y)+(y-2)+1\\ \Rightarrow f\left( y-1 \right)\quad =\quad { y }^{ 2 }+3-3y\\ \Rightarrow f\left( { x }^{ 2015 }-1 \right)\quad =\quad { x }^{ 4030 }-3({ x }^{ 2015 })+3

Hence, the coefficients are 1 , 3 , + 3 1, -3, +3 , whose sum = 1 = 1

Cheers!:)

Nicely done!

Note that you should mention that the image of x 2015 + 1 x^ { 2015} + 1 is all real numbers, which is what allows us to draw the conclusion that f ( y + 1 ) = y 2 + y + 1 f( y + 1) = y^2 + y + 1 for all real numbers.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 2 months ago

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Thanks! And, edited!:D

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years, 2 months ago

Hey, I have a doubt. Can't we write x^2015-1=x^2015+(-1). Then what?

Aaryan Maheshwari - 2 years, 1 month ago

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Yes, we can write that.
You then asked the perfect question of "Then what?", presumably because you don't see a way to continue this line of reasoning. I agree there isn't a clear way forward.

Just because we can do something, doesn't necessarily mean that it will lead to a good result. Like in this case, we get stuck.

Calvin Lin Staff - 2 years, 1 month ago
Pranshu Gaba
Apr 10, 2015

We need to find sum of coefficients of f ( x 2015 1 ) f(x^{2015} - 1) . We get the sum of coefficients when x = 1 x = 1 , therefore we must find f ( 1 2015 1 ) = f ( 0 ) f(1^{2015} - 1) = f(0) .

To find f ( 0 ) f(0) , we substitute x = 1 x = -1 in the given equation. We get sum of coefficients f ( 0 ) = ( 1 ) 4030 + ( 1 ) 2015 + 1 = 1 f(0) = (-1)^{4030} + (-1)^{2015} + 1 = \boxed{1} _\square

(+1) There is no need to find out f ( x ) f(x) explicitly.

展豪 張 - 5 years, 2 months ago

f ( x 2015 + 1 ) = x 4030 + x 2015 + 1 = x 4030 + 2 x 2015 + 1 ( x 2015 + 1 ) + 1 = ( x 2015 + 1 ) 2 ( x 2015 + 1 ) + 1 f ( x ) = x 2 x + 1 f(x^{2015} + 1) = x^{4030} +x^{2015} + 1 \\ = x^{4030} +2x^{2015} +1 -(x^{2015} + 1) +1 \\ = (x^{2015}+1)^2 - (x^{2015}+1)+1 \\ \therefore f(x) = x^2-x+1

So f ( x 2015 1 ) = ( x 2015 1 ) 2 ( x 2015 1 ) + 1 = x 4030 3 x 2015 + 3 f(x^{2015}-1) = (x^{2015}-1)^2 - (x^{2015}-1)+1 \\ = x^{4030} -3x^{2015}+3

Hence required answer is 1 3 + 3 = 1 1-3+3 = 1

question: You have implicitly defined x = x^2015 + 1, and derived that f(x) = x^2 - x + 1, which is correct. Why then, cannot we say that f(x - 2) = (x - 2)^2 - (x - 2) + 1, or x^2 - 4x + 4 -x + 2 + 1 = x^2 -5x + 7, whose sum is 3? The answer is that you cannot use the coefficients of the transformed function; in fact, x^2 - 5x + 7 is correct if you substitute x = x^2015 + 1. I Thought this was interesting enough to make a comment. Ed Gray

Edwin Gray - 3 years, 1 month ago

We may rewrite f f as f ( x 2015 + 1 ) = x 2015 ( x 2015 + 1 ) + 1 f(x^{2015} + 1) = x^{2015} (x^{2015} + 1) + 1 . Setting x 2015 + 1 = u x^{2015} + 1 = u we have f ( u ) = u 2 u + 1 f(u) = u^{2} - u + 1 . Letting u = x 2015 1 u = x^{2015} - 1 gives us f ( x 2015 1 ) = x 2030 3 x 2015 + 3 f(x^{2015} - 1) = x^{2030} - 3x^{2015} + 3 .

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